Love Tips Cap to Defense

D has made life tough in camp.

Want to know how the Green Bay Packers’ new defense is doing?  Why not ask the guy who is in the best position to know?  Quarterback Jordan Love has been facing it in every practice during this training camp.   He also faced it last year.   What’s his impression?  “All training camp I’ve been saying the defense just feels different,” he said this week.    

By different, he means it’s been a pain in the butt for him to try to get a consistent passing game going in practice.  “We go against them every day and there’s not a lot of wide open guys,” Love said in the locker room.  “They’re on their P’s and Q’s in who they need to cover, they’re passing stuff off and falling off certain windows, so it looks really good.” 

Which has been really bad at times for the offense.  It’s no secret the defense has dominated the majority of the team drills this summer.  There are occasions when Love will have some success connecting long and short with his receivers, but he’s also thrown several interceptions and missed other targets with inaccuracies.  Part of the reason for that is heavy pressure from the pass rush.  Of course, nobody is allowed to hit the $55 million dollar per year signal caller, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t affected by pursuit that has been buzzing around his head since his first practice.  “Once we go live and that rush comes alive, I feel it in practice.  I’m definitely excited to see them in games against other QBs.  I know they’re going to give QBs a lot of fits.” 

Running game?  Well, the Packers may have a decent running game this season, but it has been almost non-existent in training camp thus far.  By and large, the defense has been all over the running backs.  So is that because the running game is that bad?  Or is the defense that good?  There are indications the answer is the latter.  Because against Cleveland in the first preseason game the Packers ran wild, piling up 155 yards on the ground, while the defense held the Browns to just 56 rushing yards.

The next quarterback who may get to feel that heat is rookie Bo Nix.  The Packers are conducting joint workouts Friday with the Denver Broncos in preparation for their preseason game in Denver Sunday night.  Nix is likely to start that game under center.   He will face a Packers defense that had three sacks and five quarterback hits in its preseason opener at Cleveland.  Lukas Van Ness, who did not start the game, led the way with a sack, two hits on the QB, and three tackles for loss.  Van Ness is clearly more comfortable starting with hands down out of the new 4-3 alignment.  The second year player has had an impressive camp.  He was drafted in the first round last year to eventually replace Preston Smith, but the way he is performing, that transition may take place sooner than later.   

Rashan Gary has also made life miserable for Love in training camp.  Like Van Ness, Gary played with his hand in the dirt in college and welcomes the opportunity to return to a style he is most comfortable with.  “Aggression, man.  Playing fast, physical and effort, man, and that’s all me,” Gary recently told the beat writers.   

Defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley is finding himself with a decision to make that he likely didn’t expect.  Javon Bullard was drafted in the second round to be Green Bay’s starting safety opposite free agent prize Xavier McKinney.  But Bullard is being challenged for that starting spot by fourth round rookie Evan Williams, who is showing why Brian Gutekunst traded a sixth round pick to move up sixteen slots to grab him.  “That competition has brought out the best in both of us,” Williams opined.  “We’re going hard every day knowing a spot’s on the line and just trying to show our best stuff every day.  We definitely push each other.” 

That competition will be fun to watch as the remainder of the preseason plays out.  Safety is not the only position which now appears to be up for grabs.  De’vonte Wyatt is surging hard to take away a starting spot on the defensive line from TJ Slaton.  Carrington Valentine started ramping up from being out with a hamstring problem, and is expected to push Eric Stokes for a corner spot opposite Jaire Alexander. 

Positional rivalry is making this defense hard to handle this summer.  Jordan Love, for one, will be glad they are chasing somebody else around the field this weekend. 

  

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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ricky's picture

August 15, 2024 at 03:39 pm

Bullard vs Williams goes back to the belief that it doesn't matter where you're drafted. Are you able to transition from the college game to the pros quickly? Are you versatile, and can you cover TE's and RB's in the middle of the field? When you tackle someone, do they hit the ground? Or do they chug along for an extra few yards, or do you whiff completely, trying to arm tackle guys who are bigger, faster and better than you regularly saw in college? Or, as one of the pundits on here is fond of saying, "Iron sharpens iron." You want the starter to be the best player available, no matter where he was chosen. And the backup has to be able to step in, and at a minimum, not hurt the team with his play. Two more exhibition games, and then we'll see who starts against Philly.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

August 16, 2024 at 10:03 am

They both need to be on the field. Love Keesian Nixon, but Bullard is multiple tiers above him at nickel. And Williams should be the starting strong safety.

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Starrbrite's picture

August 16, 2024 at 01:31 pm

Excellent comments Ricky.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 15, 2024 at 06:13 pm

The coaches are playing LVN with the number twos quite a lot. I am not sure what to think about that. There is no question that LVN has been terrorizing offensive linemen, but a lot that appears to me to be against the backups. Is LVN improved or are the backup offensive linemen terrible?

And why is LVN with the Twos so much? Watching him, I didn't see him incorporate more pass rushing techniques into his repertoire. Ben Fennel looked at his film and suggested that particularly when LVN is lined up wide he has no plan to beat the OT and doesn't have any variety to moves and counter in his arsenal. He still seems to be a bull rusher with extraordinary athleticism. Is that why he is with the twos? Tom and Walker know how to anchor and if necessary, re-anchor.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 15, 2024 at 06:40 pm

I think we'll see a rotation involving Gary, LVN, Smith, in order to keep people fresher for the 4th quarter.

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dobber's picture

August 15, 2024 at 07:01 pm

And Enagbare...

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Starrbrite's picture

August 16, 2024 at 01:34 pm

Yes—and I believe Enagbare is an excellent rotational source—to piggyback on what Dobber mentioned.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 15, 2024 at 07:36 pm

Heard a theory on the radio they want him getting as many snaps as possible. The guy thought Smith and Gary will see snaps in the scrimmages but little to none in the games while LVN will get a lot of work in the games against tackles he's not seeing everyday in practice. Made sense to me.

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dblbogey's picture

August 15, 2024 at 08:20 pm

It's hard to tell much watching preseason games. Maybe a guy looks great, but it's because he's playing against 3rd stringers who will soon be on somebody's practice squad. I remember about 6 years ago when a lot of Packers fans were in love with Ty Summers. Turns out when he was put up against quality players, he wasn't so good.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2024 at 10:22 am

Whom would you displace for LVN on the 1s? DE is going to be a rotation and should be. I’m optimistic DL generally will be much more so in fact.

I’m not sure how this OL is going to look, Hafley is not showing anything and rightly. If we don’t know, nor do opponents, and that is a good thing. We are going to have to wait for the season to see how he uses not just personnel but formations. Wyatt, LVN, Brooks and Wooden are going to see snaps. How many, how early and, in some cases, from where on the line remain to be seen.

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Bitternotsour's picture

August 16, 2024 at 11:34 am

steel yourselves. strap in and see who's who come week one. ultimately fandom should be fun, not an exercise in determining whether or not to carry 7 wideouts.

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stephen rowe's picture

August 15, 2024 at 06:50 pm

Surely, surely, surely the Packers can find a place kicker that is at least average.

The two we have right now - are not it!

Lord help us.

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Coldworld's picture

August 16, 2024 at 10:43 am

Actually, we really have 2 that are very average to date in camp and slightly below it previously (Joseph given the majority of dome games and Carlson due to his issue on extra points).

As of February 2024, the average NFL kicker's field goal accuracy was 85.94%. For extra points, the annual league conversion rate has been between 93% and 94.6 since the move back. An extra point is essentially a 30-32 yard kick (15 yard line of scrimmage plus 10 yard end zone plus distance to the holder.) A field goal from the 30 yard line is about a 45-7 yard kick. The effect of dome play is illustrated by the fact that on 30-yard field goals in a dome, the average kicker is accurate 96% of the time. After that distance the conversion rate drops gradually until 50 plus.

In camp most kicks are higher 30s to mid 50 yards. In reality the average in season is much less. The average field goal attempt distance in the 2021 NFL season was 38.6 yards with a conversion rate of 85 percent. At 50 yards the rate decreases to around 70%. At 53 yards, the accuracy is 67%, after just 2 more yards, the accuracy falls to 56%.

Kickers do statistically tend to improve over their first 3-5 years or so (Crosby took 5 years to reach 85% on field goals—that was before extra points were moved back, making that comparative meaningless). Carlson’s brother is another example. Joseph is at or has passed the point in his career where that is statistically likely.

Overall Carlson wasn’t bad for a rookie on field goals. His distinctive issue was in extra points, which is extremely unusual. Kickers seldom have issues with short (for them) kicks. He did. The question is why. As far as I know that’s been absent through camp. That’s perhaps the one point for optimism visible to us as fans.

Given the length of kicks, both he and Joseph are around average (even allowing for warmer weather) on field goals. Thrilling? No., but not terrible either, just average.

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Starrbrite's picture

August 16, 2024 at 01:37 pm

Very good info CW. Really enjoyed your post.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

August 16, 2024 at 10:44 am

Actually, the two kickers they have are the definition of average. What many Packer fans are expecting is an above average kicker and theres only a handful of them in the league. Theres Justin Tucker, Harrison Butker, Daniel Carlson, and Evan McPherson. Then theres everyone else. Anders Carlson, like his brother Daniel, could become one of these guys if people will get off his ass and let him develop.

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Bitternotsour's picture

August 16, 2024 at 11:36 am

halleluiah

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Starrbrite's picture

August 16, 2024 at 01:39 pm

Well said Baloney—-agree.

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LeotisHarris's picture

August 15, 2024 at 08:10 pm

Thanks, Ken. That was a pleasure to read.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

August 15, 2024 at 09:26 pm

Indeed!

Some want to rush this part of the season, eager for week 1. Not me, I want the team to maximize these final stages of preparation. Sux that we have 2 injured LBs, hopefully they'll be ready to go before the end of the season, but obviously they won't be better because of it.

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