Hello Wisconsin: A New Phase of the NFL’s Oldest Rivalry

A meaningful Bears week is back.

I can’t remember a later first matchup in the season for the Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears in my lifetime, but on this first weekend of December, the two teams finally square off once again in a continuation of the league’s oldest rivalry.

This matchup represents a potential start to a new phase or era of the rivalry. Ben Johnson’s arrival in Chicago has resulted in an unlikely transformation of the perennial basement dwellers of the NFC North. Only a small number of times this century have the Chicago Bears been relevant to the playoff picture come December and January, and in a development not even the biggest Bears homers could have foreseen, Chicago occupies the NFC’s top side with five games to go. 

The Bears and Packers both have young, talented quarterbacks, and while Caleb Williams has a long way to go before he’s in the same tier as Jordan Love, he’s clearly made some strides under Johnson’s tutelage while not having to shoulder the load of the offense thanks to the Bears’ potent rushing attack. The team is playing with a level of confidence and swagger not seen since the mid-2000s; even that random 2018 playoff team never felt quite as loose as this current edition of the club.

This is not the first “reset” the Bears have had in recent years. They started over with Mitch Trubisky, then Matt Nagy a year later. They started over with Justin Fields, then Matt Eberflus a year later. Now they’ve started over with Caleb Williams, and then Ben Johnson a year later. Three quarterbacks, three lost rookie seasons, two failed coaches and one who’s looking promising. 

This time definitely feels different. The Bears needed a cultural reset, and neither Nagy or Eberflus ever successfully brought that aboard. Johnson is a dynamic personality and was highly sought after in a way Nagy and Eberflus simply were not when they were interviewing. 

And so now, we have the first highly anticipated matchup between Johnson’s Bears and Matt LaFleur’s Packers. Johnson’s Lions offenses tended to give the Packers fits during the last few years; it’s no coincidence that the Packers have had much greater defensive success against the Lions this season in Johnson’s absence.

To add some spice to the matchup, Johnson was quoted in the offseason as (and I’m paraphrasing here) being excited to still be in the NFC North because he enjoyed beating LaFleur twice a year.

The Bears are coming off their first victory over the Packers in years, and were it not for a blocked field goal, they would have swept Green Bay a season ago. The Packers almost certainly are remembering this and hoping to reestablish dominance over their longtime foe. 

But the Bears have a swagger they did not a season ago. While they haven’t exactly been dominant (they only just recently got back into a positive point differential for the season and have mostly been in one-score games), they’ve been winning, and that doesn’t happen consistently by accident. They’re doing enough to beat the teams on their schedule, and that includes the NFL’s defending champions.

The atmosphere will be intense at Lambeau Field on Sunday afternoon. And while I love seeing the Bears be bad, there’s also something exciting and “right” about both teams being good at the same time. It makes the rivalry mean that much more.

These two teams will meet twice in the next three weeks. Let’s see how they stack up.

Wisconsin Beer of the Week

I do love a good Black IPA, and while the style has kind of dipped in broader popularity over the last five to ten years since it peaked in the mid-2010s, I still take any opportunity I can to grab one up when I see it.

Black Bird by Lakefront Brewery is a seasonal they started making a year or two ago, and every time it comes available I make sure to grab a pack, because it’s sort of a rare treat in this beer market. 

Here’s how Lakefront describes it:

“The hoppy aromas ready the palate for an immediate bitterness. Instead, the sweet, caramelly crystal malts blitz through, followed by citrus and tropical fruit flavor from citra, el dorado, Idaho 7 and cashmere hops.”

The beer comes in at 6.8 percent ABV and a not-too-bitter 40 IBUs.

So what changed on offense?

Thanksgiving Day was the best the Packers’ offense has looked in a long time. So what exactly changed?

There’s been a lot of talk about how Matt LaFleur called the game. Yes, he was more aggressive than usual with his fourth downs, which did end up playing a significant role in the outcome of the game, especially when comparing the Packers’ success rate on fourth down to that of the Lions. But I think really since the New York game, LaFleur has actually been calling pretty good games–it’s just been a lack of execution.

The Packers certainly executed to a higher level in this game than they have previously. The number of dropped passes has decreased. The Packers have also reduced the number of penalties they’ve committed: three against Detroit, two against Minnesota. It should come as no surprise that those games, which saw them play their most polished football since September, also represented the games this season in which they committed the fewest penalties.

Another key point to consider is the improved performance of the offensive line. The offensive performance was at its worst this season when there was inconsistency with the starting lineup and players who were playing hurt.

The last three weeks, offensive line performance has gradually improved. Perhaps the most notable improvement has come from Aaron Banks, who for a while was looking dreadful and disappointing after being signed this offseason. Now that he’s regained his health, he’s been playing much better football. But Sean Rhyan has also been solid in his shift to center to cover for Elgton Jenkins and has been particularly strong in the run game. Anthony Belton, while still learning as a rookie, has already come a long way and shown off some impressive physical attributes. And overall, the team has had much more consistency with the guys who are playing along that front.

Really, it’s that offensive line component here that is the most promising. If that consistency remains and this unit can gel together, it opens up a whole world of possibilities for the offense. The running game has been more consistent, and Jordan Love has more time to throw the football. The playbook begins to open back up for Matt LaFleur because you have an offensive line capable of moving people and that’s not being a sieve in front of the quarterback.  To me, that is what’s making the biggest difference at this point.

So yes, players are executing better. LaFleur has been coaching better. But a lot of that is also a credit to how much the offensive line has come along in recent weeks. 

Hopefully that trend continues; the teams that are going to go far in the playoffs are the teams that can run the football and protect the quarterback, and without a quality line, you’re not going to be able to do that.

Around the NFC North

As always, it’s time to go around the NFC North. 

  • The CHICAGO BEARS had what many thought would be their first “real test” of the season in the Philadelphia Eagles, and if it truly was that, then they passed with flying colors. The Eagles have been seeing a bit of a late season wilt, but they are still the defending champs and still the odds-on favorite to win their division. The Bears took the Eagles down on their home field with relative ease, controlling the clock with their running game as they’ve managed to do successfully against opponents for the last couple months. It remains to be seen whether the Bears are a true upper tier contender, but one thing’s for sure: they at least deserve to be taken seriously.

 

  • The DETROIT LIONS are in desperation mode. They absolutely needed a victory against the Packers, but instead they continued one of my favorite traditions in football: Detroit losing at home on Thanksgiving Day. It was one of the most consequential games in the league this year; it was about a 35 percentage point swing as to the likelihood of the team making the playoffs based on whether they won or lost. Now, the Lions need to get back in winning mode as soon as possible if they’re going to be able to salvage their hopes of getting to the playoffs, let alone advancing in them. With their offensive line troubles and the defense’s defanged nature, it looks like it may all be a bit too much for this year’s edition of the Lions to handle.

 

  • The MINNESOTA VIKINGS apparently have TWO quarterbacks who suck, plus the shambling corpse of Carson Wentz, reaffirming the idea that this team has to go back to the drawing board at the position this offseason… and it’s not exactly going to be the greatest year to be in that position, either. The team might attempt to find a band-aid solution for now, but the decision to allow Sam Darnold to walk away after the season he put up continues to look worse and worse, especially with how he’s helped transform Seattle’s passing offense this year. The Vikings are going to be in a tough position this offseason not only because of their quarterback deficiency, but also because they have a lot of aging veterans on big contracts. It might be approaching time for some major roster overhauls. You sure hate to see it.

Mr. Backes’s “This or That”

Every day I put a different “this or that” poll up on my whiteboard and have students leave tallies throughout the day. I then compile this information and post it here for laughs.

Here’s what we’ve seen over the last week (there were only a couple with the holiday break):

  • Home Alone defeated Elf
  • Snow forts defeated snowmen

Does he have a vintage moment in him?

Yesterday (Wednesday) was the 10th anniversary of the Packers’ dramatic victory in Detroit that saw Aaron Rodgers launch an absolute moonball of a hail mary into the awaiting arms of Richard Rodgers on an untimed down to win the game. Some call it the Miracle in Motown. 

For me personally, it’s one of the most memorable experiences I have of watching a game simply because of the setting. I am notorious among my friends for absolutely having to be locked in during a game, paying full attention to what’s happening rather than the people around me. For this reason, I kind of hate watching the games out at bars or at parties because the setting prevents me from doing that, and because people expect there to be some social interaction when you’re watching the game with them. It’s not that I don’t want to engage with my friends! I just want to be focused on the game!

But on this particular occasion, December 3, 2015, I allowed my friends to convince me to go out to a local bar that we liked for the game. The bar owners always made a full spread of food (including some awesome chili) and patrons would often bring in stuff as well, and there’d be a free potluck plus free touchdown shots. Really a great environment, if you’re the kind of person who likes watching games out in public around other people.

So I was there begrudgingly, and the game was awful. Like, I’m not sure how well you all remember that full game, but it was dull. The team looked bad, they took forever to get any kind of scoring drive going, and even the fourth quarter itself wasn’t all that dramatic–the offense was so anemic and it seemed to be a given that they were going to lose the game.

But then the moment happened. We got the untimed down. A hush came over the bar. And… well, you know the rest. The hail mary. Jim Nantz’s vintage call. “He turned 32 yesterday, does he have a vintage moment in him?” Phil Simms saying, “It’s gonna get there!” and then, well, it got there. A win.

The entire bar absolutely erupted. It was electric. I’ve never experienced anything like that while watching a game; the closest was when I had some friends over to watch the Packers against the Bears in 2013, and that fourth down touchdown to Randall Cobb happened. But I’m not sure I’ve ever experienced anything else like this while watching live sports. Everyone in the bar thought the game was over. And then, the most miraculous ending.

Anyway, a great sports memory, and while the 2015 season wasn’t exactly one that ended well, that will always be one of my favorite Packer memories.

Week 14 NFL Picks

Remember all that talk about taking the Bears seriously? Yes, okay, I do mean that… BUT. There’s simply no chance of me ever picking the Bears over the Packers. I don’t care what the records are, I don’t care what the stakes are. The Bears still suck. The Packers have owned this team for three decades, and will continue to do so no matter what kind of wunderkind coach they’ve got on staff.

Packers 70, Bears 3

Other games:

COWBOYS over Lions

BROWNS over Titans

SEAHAWKS over Falcons

JAGUARS over Colts

COMMANDERS over Vikings

BILLS over Bengals

BUCS over Saints

RAVENS over Steelers

DOLPHINS over Jets

BRONCOS over Raiders

RAMS over Cardinals

PACKERS over Bears

CHIEFS over Texans

CHARGERS over Eagles

 

 

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Tim Backes is a lifelong Packer fan and a contributor to CheeseheadTV. Follow him on Twitter @timbackes for his Packer takes, random musings and Untappd beer check-ins.

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Cheezehead72's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:19 am

One thing I keep reading and hearing is people saying the Vikings let Sam Darnald and Daniel Jones walk. The information I have is that the Vikings offered Darnald a similar contract to what the Seahawks offered and he wanted to start not be a bridge QB. They actually offered Jones a better contract but he thought he could beat out Richardson to start. It would have been difficult to offer Darnald much more than what he got.

I'm wondering if the Bears are going to use more hurry up in this game preventing the Packers from resting the DTs and keeping them on the field.

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T7Steve's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:35 am

"I'm wondering if the Bears are going to use more hurry up in this game?"

Makes for fast 3 and outs for them and gets the Packers offense back on the field so I can only hope.

I also hope that Matt isn't afraid to use his hurry up when the time is right. I think Love really clicks in the hurry, don't you?

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Cheezehead72's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:40 am

Yes Love does seem to do well with the hurry up. Yes I agree that if the hurry up does not work then your defense does not get time to rest.

If the Packers have the ball first they should come out and run the hurry up a lot on the first drive. Otherwise run the hurry up on the critical plays and the third down plays.

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GregC's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:13 am

The first drive is a good time to use hurry-up. Catch the opposing defense with it when they are coming onto the field cold. If it doesn't work, your own defense is coming onto the field for the first time anyway, so they are fully rested.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 04, 2025 at 11:07 am

I agree with more up tempo as opposed to taking the play clock down to less than 5 seconds.

And Love is very good with more speed to line and the snap. I think it helps the OL get more movement for Jacobs and Wilson on run plays too.

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T7Steve's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:32 am

"But the Bears have a swagger they did not a season ago."

The Packers' new O-line alignment and the D that Ben isn't very used to will just knock that swagger on its ass.

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Razer's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:46 am

70 - 3 over da Bears. I love it Tim. I hope that Lafleur has a "2 win" nastiness to his gameplan. I thought that beating the Lions in their den on Thanksgiving would be the definition game to this season but I think a dismantling of da Bears would satisfy my bloodlust. Go Packers.

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Cheezehead72's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:50 am

A two touchdown win would be enough to make a statement that the Bears are not ready for primetime. If we get a three TD lead we need to rest players and decrease the chances of injury.

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jvole's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:01 am

Sadly, I think we might see Malik in Minnesota next year given their undying love for our players.

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Cheezehead72's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:11 am

You might be onto something because he does fit the system and he would have WRs to throw to but once again we get into the question of will he be the started. Malik will want to start and he will want to get starter money. I look at the Steelers, Rams, Jets, and possibly the Dolphins and Saints looking for a starter. So there will be competition for up and coming QBs with starting experience.

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BuckyBadger's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:23 am

Malik won't be getting a lot of teams to sign him to starters money. They might give him a chance to earn the starting spot and show he deserves it but he hasn't shown enough to just hand him a big contract.

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Coldworld's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:47 am

He’s thrown more passes than Matt Flynn had and won more games too. It only takes one.

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BuckyBadger's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:22 am

I don't see Malik getting a lot of demand out there and in Minnesota they don't have time to take a flier on a middling QB to salvage his career. Willis is a serviceable backup but he isn't someone you want to be your fulltime starter. He isn't a guy you want throwing the ball 25x a game.

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Guam's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:30 am

Dunno BB. Sam Darnold rewrote that script about a middling QB salvaging his career when he led Minnesota to a 14-3 record last season and is now leading Seattle to a 9-3 record to date this season. Some guys just need a more time to mature into a starting role.

Willis came out of Liberty as a raw QB with a very strong arm. If the ability to read defenses can be further developed, he has the physical tools to throw the ball all over the yard. The college QB draft pool is not deep this year and there are several teams in need of a QB. I think some team will take a shot with him.

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BuckyBadger's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:31 am

Willis isn't Sam Darnold. Sam was a 1st round pick where Willis was a project QB from day one.

I disagree about Willis arm strength. He was an athletic QB in college but he wasn't ever a guy that put up big numbers. He transferred from Auburn to Liberty because he couldn't start at Auburn. He has limits to his game.

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Guam's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:46 am

Tom Brady was a sixth round pick - certainly a project by any definition and not a guy with a cannon arm. I don't put much stock in what round a player was drafted after they have been in the league for a few years. The question is how have they developed since college.

Willis has had two years of polishing in Green Bay and played decently in his limited opportunities. I think someone will give him a shot (not a guaranteed starter but a chance to compete for the starter's job). It will be interesting to see if he fails or asserts himself as Jordan Love did after three years of development behind Rodgers.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 04, 2025 at 11:18 am

He was mentioned by some draft analysts as a possible first rounder and did get taken in the 3rd by the Titans. Willis has demonstrative NFL QB skills.

All drafted QBs are "projects" in their NFL first year whether they know it or not. And the best projects are those who sit for a year or two (Favre 1/ 1/2 years) or three (Rodgers, Love) and not rushed to the field. The Team we play in 4 days are exhibit one. Even Mahomes sat for a year as Reid prepared him, knowing he was not ready for the NFL speed and talent yet.

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dobber's picture

December 04, 2025 at 09:36 am

"he isn't someone you want to be your fulltime starter. He isn't a guy you want throwing the ball 25x a game."

I think they said similar things about Lamar Jackson when he was in the draft. Many personnel guys said he would need to play WR in the NFL.

What I'll say about Willis is that he was extremely raw coming out of Liberty and was more athlete than QB. The Titans threw him into the fire and he wasn't good. Who is he now? We've only seen very limited samples and mostly against bad teams. He'd need to play most of a season to really know.

I agree: I think nobody is going to want to give him even low-end QB starter money. He'll get a low-money deal with limited guarantees and a chance to compete for a job. I think that's about all he can ask for at this point.

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Guam's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:01 am

I wonder how much two years of sitting behind Love and being coached by Clements and others have helped Willis? He certainly needed development time coming out of Liberty (just as Jordan Love needed development time coming out of Utah State) and the Packers gave him two years of polishing. It will be interesting to see how he does down the road.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 04, 2025 at 11:27 am

Polished three years as a Padawan Learner under Jedi Aaron who was also a three year Padawan under Jedi Gunslinger.

Packers have had the best "Prepared" QBs in the NFL for over 3 decades with only 3 QBs as other teams prepare their rookies QBs by throwing them into the fire and too often burn their development potential. Look at Fields. Bares wrecked him.

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dobber's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:56 pm

Remember he had about three weeks in green-gold before he was tapped to start last season.

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jvole's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:31 am

He has thrown some remarkable balls over the last couple of years. I think he is going to be a starter somewhere.

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Coldworld's picture

December 04, 2025 at 11:42 am

So here’s a question that may be fun. You have a new franchise and are the GM. You have 2 QBs to pick from. Caleb Williams and Malik Willis as their end of November 2025 selves.

All other things being equal, which player would you pick to give your team the best chance to win its first game? Willis or Williams for the first W?

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jvole's picture

December 04, 2025 at 12:04 pm

Good question--Willis

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dobber's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:58 pm

Ooooh...trolling the Bears fans who have started to lurk and occasionally post...

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Guam's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:22 am

The Packers are going to lose Willis to one team or another next season as he will want a shot a starting position. Hopefully he signs a big enough contract to net the Packers a good compensation pick in 2027 (hoping for a #3 and would settle for a #4).

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:34 am

70-3. Good call, Tim. May we all channel our inner Doug_in_Sandpoint for the remainder of the season.

GPG!

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TXCHEESE's picture

December 04, 2025 at 08:41 am

" It might be approaching time for some major roster overhauls. You sure hate to see it." I hope this was written with tongue firmly planted in cheek. LMAO. Purples gonna Purple. We now just have to wait to see what ex-Packer they pick up this offseason.

I remember the Motown Miracle game like it was yesterday. My son was away at college so we were texting back and forth through the game. After that play, we both simultaneously texted "WTF!"

As for da Bears. Packers are the better overall team, with decidedly the better QB. Avoid the turnover and play solid special teams and the Packers win. It would be great to mop the floor with them and send them to a downward spiral, but I would fear, they may try to deliver cheap shots if game 2 in the series starts heading that way.

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dobber's picture

December 04, 2025 at 09:40 am

"I remember the Motown Miracle game like it was yesterday."

Living in lower MI, it was **chef's kiss**

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Stik75's picture

December 04, 2025 at 09:10 am

Saying Williams and Love are young QBs in the same sentence is just setting up another excuse for the Packers should they inexplicably lose to the bears..
I am so sick of excuse making for the Packers.
Just win.

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dobber's picture

December 04, 2025 at 09:34 am

"The Packers have also reduced the number of penalties they’ve committed"

I'll be the dork here when I say that when I'm watching these games I don't think that there are that many fewer penalties being committed. There are just fewer being called. I like that, but it needs to be more consistent across the season and officiating crews.

"But the Bears have a swagger they did not a season ago. "

I don't know about that. They played well early a year ago and then fell apart, but still were playing with some swagger. Eberflus hadn't lost his team, but management wanted to move on. The interesting part is the perception of Johnson as coach. Now he's viewed as popular, physical, and tough. In the interview process, there were many who said he was introverted and geeky, and they didn't know how his skill set would allow him to lead a locker room (similar to what's-his-name with the Dolphins). We'll see what happens if they get punched in the mouth a few times down the stretch and they limp into (or miss altogether) the playoffs.

"The Bears"

They've won 9, and if they win the division, they'll have earned it. The Browns are the weakest team on their schedule, yet, and they're not a pushover. They could still lose 4 of 5.

"The Lions"

That loss put them in a tough spot, especially with several good teams in the NFCW vying for wild card spots. If they were closer to healthy and if they got a healthy Frank Ragnow back for the stretch run, I'd say they could still make a run. They could make the playoffs, but I think they lose a high-scoring game to Dallas tonight--don't sleep on Dallas. They bought a couple good defenders at the deadline and have playmakers on offense. They have a relatively soft path to the end and could run the table to make the playoffs...but they need to beat Detroit tonight.

"The Vikings are going to be in a tough position this offseason not only because of their quarterback deficiency, but also because they have a lot of aging veterans on big contracts."

Kick more dirt on them. They needed to commit to a rebuild years ago and just didn't do it. It's a testament to O'Connell and Flores that they've lasted this long.

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T7Steve's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:03 am

"healthy Frank Ragnow back for the stretch"

Didn't he fail his initial physical (torn tendon) and had to stay on the retired list?

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Packerpasty's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:13 am

yup...flunked his physical, won't be "unretired"...

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GregC's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:19 am

I'll be happy if the Packers win by one point.

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NFLfan's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:31 am

I watched a bit of NFL's Network Kyle Brandt yesterday. He is always entertaining.
He recently spent 4 hours @ Halas Hall, (Bears training facility) and met with Caleb and others but not with Ben Johnson. (He said he didn't expect to). His takeaway was the amount of influence and control Ben Johnson has on players and the culture. It was a bit eerie. I certainly don't get that from MLF but that is a good thing.
It is obvious one would have to be rather single-minded and given carte blanche from the GM/ownership to turn-around a franchise to this degree in one season.

He will bring that single-mindedness to the game. I'm certain Hafley is aware. This game is between Johnson and Hafley, IMO.

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TXCHEESE's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:40 am

The Bears weren't horrible last season, they just got into a funk and couldn't get out of it. They had the Lions beat last year and didn't close the deal. I wouldn't call this season a massive turn around, but more like they quit shooting themselves in the foot.

They will be competitive in the coming years. I think much more so than the Lions and the Purples.

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NFLfan's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:45 am

Agree with your assessment of the Bears-they have everything in place, a good, ascending QB, great O-Line, very good receivers & more but their biggest weapon is Ben Johnson. He is a brilliant tactician and has buy-in from his team.

I forgive the Lions a bit this year as they did remarkably well after losing 50% of their coaches.
It is very difficult to replace an OC like Ben Johnson but they have a winning culture and I expect them to rebound fairly quickly.

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Coldworld's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:54 am

The Lions losing coaches may have been a factor, but their D was never great. What was was their OL. They lost key players there and that’s been catastrophic because it exposes Goff. Give him time and the confidence that he has it and he’s been really good for years. When he hasn’t had that he has struggled to win games for his teams. That is the critical difference.

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GregC's picture

December 04, 2025 at 10:55 am

What's this about the Bears having the Lions beat last year? In the first game, the Bears trailed 23-7 going into the 4th quarter, came back to make it 23-20, and botched a chance to attempt a field goal that would've tied the game, not won it. The Bears lost the other game against the Lions 34-17.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 04, 2025 at 11:43 am

I listened to "Locked on Packers" with Peter Bukowski. He said the Packers may have the most balanced Team in the NFL and if the O and D continue to play complementary football...who can match them?

He did not address or add the Packers STs to the scales. But even then, he made a compelling case.

He also stated if the Packers were to run the table (possible, not probable in my view) it will be due to Love playing at a consistently at the high level he has the last few games. And If they would win out, Bukowski guaranteed Love would be the top candidate for the league MVP.

I can buy all the "Love" but some difficult opponents ahead.

I will say I have not felt this way since Favre and Reggie...Love and Parsons are giving me the same vibes. Playmakers all.

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Starrbrite's picture

December 04, 2025 at 04:16 pm

I’m with you Tim; I not keen on anyone watching the game with me. Especially at a tavern where other team’s fans are lurking.
I don’t want/need some friends
/relatives/bystanders commentary while I’m focused on the game.
My good friend and former U.S. Marshal is a diehard Bears fan. He’s more confident than ever, but not delusional. A win, especially at Lambeau will suppress some of the bears hype —I fully expect a Packer win.
My SB is next week vs the team I despise most—donkey-a$$es and their stupid fans.
Go Packers!!!

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Packerpasty's picture

December 04, 2025 at 04:23 pm

can't watch with anyone, for the most part...if its a holiday and I have relatives in the house I can't escape to the bedroom for 4 hours so I have to put up with them, a few are very good fans, not Packers fans but at least they know football, but I can also get stuck with a few who try to be football smart but they aren't..."what ever happened to Rodgers, why isn't he starting"....stuff like that....gimmie a beer, some snacks and my bedroom tv, im good...wife even knows by now what mood ill be in end of game and usually brings me supper upstairs....decades like this, we actually used to take a ride after games and listen to the post game show with Larry the finger and those guys...dont listen to that anymore....should start again..

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Starrbrite's picture

December 04, 2025 at 07:00 pm

Lol—that was good Pasty.

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