Packers Snap Counts: Week 6 Vs. The Cardinals

Packers control the Arizona Cardinals to get their fourth win.  

 

 

 

The Packers signed TE John Fitzpatrick to the 53-man roster.  Fitzpatrick had been on Atlanta's practice squad.  He replaced TE Luke Musgrave, who went on Injured Reserve.  The Packers also re-signed Robert Rochell to the practice squad.  For the Arizona game, the Packers elevated FB Andrew Beck.  The Packers re-instated WR Romeo Doubs.  OL Jordan Morgan, Christian Watson also were back from injuries.  Devonte Wyatt was inactive due to injury.  DE Brenton Cox, OL Travis Glover, OT Andre Dillard, and TE John Fitzpatrick were healthy scratches.  QB Malik Willis was active but he did not play.  Dontayvion Wicks and Josh Myers were both injured during the course of the game and neither returned.

 

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN:

 

Player Snaps % ST
Tom 73 100 7/26%
Walker 73 100 7/26%
Jenkins 73 100  
Myers 68 93 5/19%
Rhyan 40 55 7/26%
Morgan 38 52 7/26%
Monk     2/7
Telfort     7/26%

 

The line's pass blocking was outstanding.  The line allowed just 2 quarterback hits and frequently gave Jordan Love copious amounts of time to throw the ball.  The offensive line had a good day run blocking as well, as the Packers gained 179 yards on 38 carries (4.7-yard average) with a long of 16.  When Myers left the game in the fourth quarter, Jenkins looked comfortable at center and the line continued to function well, albeit with the benefit of having a big lead.  Myers did return to the game.

 

QUARTERBACKS:

 

Player Snaps % ST
Love 73 100  
Willis DNP    

 

Jordan Love had a good day.  He completed 22 of 32 (68.75%) of his passes for 258 yards (8.06/attempt) for 4 touchdowns and 1 interception (which was not Love's fault, as the receiver slipped).  His throws were usually accurate.   He made at least 2 big-time throws and had only one turnover-worthy throw, which actually was caught by Doubs for a touchdown.  Love also scrambled 5 times for 13 yards, but two of them were for first downs.

 

RUNNING BACKS:

Player Snaps % ST
Jacobs 46 63  
Wilson 23 32  
Brooks 10 14 4/15%
Beck 7 10 5/19%

The running backs gained 137 yards on 29 carries, good for a 4.72-yard average.  Jacobs is particularly adept at running through trash.  All of the running backs ran hard.  I was intrigued by Marshawn Lloyd but with this group of backs, there is no need to rush Lloyd's recovery.  Indeed, I think Jacobs and Wilson abilities make the offensive line's run blocking seem better than it is.  Jacobs caught 3 of 3 passes for 28 yards, while Wilson caught 1 of 2 for 19 yards.  After a rough start, the Packers have really improved their screen game.  They used it a couple times just on their first touchdown drive.

 

TIGHT ENDS:  

Player Snaps % ST
Kraft 60 82 7/26%
Sims 28 38 4/15%

 

Ben Sims had a nice day.   He caught both of his targets for 38 yards, including a low pass on some kind of wheel route that he turned into a 28-yard gain.  Tucker Kraft had a quiet day with just 2 receptions for 13 yards.  Kraft did convert a quarterback sneak on a direct snap to him.  The Packers had a lot of success with screens, jet sweeps and end-arounds, which means the blocking on the edges and downfield was very good.  

 

WIDE RECEIVERS:

 

Player Snaps % ST
Doubs 54 74  
Watson 44 60  
Reed 39 53 3/11%
Melton 27 37 6/22%
Heath 17 23 4/15%
Wicks 10 14  

 

Christian Watson led the Packers with 68 yards on 3 receptions, including a 44-yard touchdown catch on a very well-designed play.  All-Pro Budda Baker was no match for Watson one on one with no help on a post route.  Watson's day including catching a big-time throw from Love on a 4th and 2.  Doubs caught 3 of his 4 targets for 49 yards and 2 touchdowns.  On the first touchdown pass, Doubs showed off his physicality by shaking off a tackle attempt to score and on the other he made a big adjustment to a very inaccurate pass.  Reed caught 6 passes for just 28 yards.  Bo Melton caught 1 of 2 passes for 6 yards and gained 27 yards on 2 carries.  Wicks caught 1 of his 3 targets for 9 yards before leaving the game with an injury.  He did not return.

 

DEFENSE:

I have added this caption because I believe the statistics were skewed by the score (plus it is my article).  To me, what is important is that after the Packers punted on their opening drive, the defense forced the Cardinals to punt on their initial four possessions.  Those four possessions included three 3-and-outs and a 5 play drive for 21 yards and just one first down.  When the Cardinals got the ball on their fifth possession, they were down 24-0.  The other thing is that the tackling was once again good.  

 

DEFENSIVE LINE:

 

Player Snaps % ST
Clark 44 76  
Brooks 29 50 8/30%
Wooden 19 33 8/30%
Slaton 18 31 10/37%

Brooks had 1 solo tackle plus a forced fumble and fumble recovery.  Clark and Slaton each had 1 assisted tackle.  Clark had a fumble recovery.  Wooden had no statistics.  That's it: no tackles for loss, no sacks, and no quarterback hits by defensive linemen.  They did keep Kyler Murray contained and they had some push.  The Cardinals gained 89 yards on 23 carries, good for a 3.9-yard per carry average.  I would even note that the opposing running backs gained 75 yards on 16 carries, a decent 4.69-yard average.  What I think matters is that the Packers held the Cardinals to 11 plays, 34 yards and just 1 first down on their first four possessions.  The Cardinals did add 10 points late in the first half, once with the help of a short field after Bo Melton slipped and the consequent Arizona interception gave them the ball at the Packer 46-yard line.  The Cardinals gained just 31 yards on 11 carries in the first half, a 2.9-yard average.

 

EDGE:

Player Snaps % ST
Gary 38 66  
Smith 30 52  
Enagbare 27 47 9/33%
Van Ness 26 45 9/33%
Mosby     11/41%

 

Gary had 3 tackles (1 solo) and the only quarterback hit the Packers had.  The Packers had no sacks.  Smith and Enagbare each had 1 solo tackle.  Van Ness had no statistics.  Despite the statistics, or lack thereof, the Packers got good pressure on Kyler Murray and also contained him.  Murray scrambled 7 times for just 14 yards.

 

LINEBACKERS:

Player Snaps % ST
Walker 58 100 4/15%
Cooper 38 66 11/41%
McDuffie 26 45 5/19%
Er Wilson 14 24 20/74%
Hopper     15/56%

 

Quay Walker had 11 tackles (10 solo) with a tackle for loss.  Edgerrin Cooper had 7 tackles (5 solo).  Eric Wilson and McDuffie each had 3 tackles (2 solo).  Cooper had 1 tackle on special teams and Hopper had 2 on teams.  The Packers once again often had the linebackers threaten the "A gap" and once again Walker and Cooper showed off their range.  

 

DEFENSIVE BACKS:

Player Snaps % ST
Nixon 58 100 10/37%
McKinney 58 100 8/30%
Bullard 54 93 10/37%
Alexander 46 79  
Williams 38 66 11/41%
Stokes 16 28  
Ballentine 1 2 20/74%
Anderson     16/59%
Valentine     11/41%

 

Bullard had 7 tackles (6 solo).  Evan Williams had 4 solo tackles (including 1 tackle for loss) and a forced fumble.  McKinney had 4 solo tackles.  No, he did not have an interception, breaking his 5-game streak.  Nixon had 3 tackles (1 solo) and a pass defensed.  That was a big pass break up as it occurred early when the Packers were setting the tone and it was on a third down, forcing a punt.  I thought Nixon held up well on the perimeter.  Alexander had 1 solo tackle, 1 pass defensed and he recovered a fumble.  WR Michael Wilson caught an 18-yard touchdown when he ran into Alexander's area in zone coverage.  It looked a little odd since Alexander had very little chance of covering that route.  Zayne Anderson had 1 special teams tackle.  

Stokes getting just 16 snaps is interesting, and Valentine getting none is even more interesting.  It does get three safeties on the field.  The Packers went heavy on inside linebackers, which is another promising sign that Cooper is pushing for snaps.

The Cardinals are not doing Kyler Murray any favors with the talent they are surrounding him with.  With Zay Jones still out on suspension and once Marvin Harrison left the game for good after just 8 snaps, the Cardinal had just one wide receiver on active roster who was a draft pick.  That was Michael Wilson, a 2nd-year player taken with the 94th pick in the 2023 draft.  Wilson had a nice enough rookie season with 564 receiving yards.  Otherwise, they have a nice TE in Trey McBride and a good RB in James Conner, but neither of them are quick twitch guys.  RB Conners is 233 pounds and ran a 4.65 eight years ago.  Their wide receivers only caught 5 of 12 passes for 57 yards.  McBride caught 8 or 8 passes for 96 yards - not the first time a tight end hurt the Packers.  Their running backs caught 9 of 12 for 61 yards.  

 

SPECIAL TEAMS:

Narveson made all 4 of his extra point attempts and 2 of his 3 field goals, missing from 44.  

TE: 1.21

RB: 1.18

WR: 2.62

DL: 1.86

Edge 2.09

ILB: 2.34

DB: 4.67

 

Photo courtesy of Wm. glasheen, USA Today Network

 

 

 

 

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GB@Germany's picture

October 14, 2024 at 06:26 am

Thanks for the numbers and the comments in between- a must read every week. The biggest surprise to me is Valentine not having any snaps but on teams- not sure this is a good development…

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Coldworld's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:02 am

In that game, Stokes started and shut down Harrison, their size/speed threat (mostly on paper) rookie very effectively (a lot of very tight coverage). A good matchup for Stokes’ skill set.

Arizona was struggling to get deep target opportunities from the outset because we bottled up Murray. When Harrison left and the left the game concussed, Arizona largely ceased to attempt to target the perimeter with any depth.

At that point, the one circumstance where Nixon outside makes some sense actually triggered. He’s tough and physical and can read short play well in addition to being able to help contain TEs more than Valentine or Stokes, even Alexander. Nixon is, in effect, a hybrid CB/box S. In that game context, Alexander & Nixon plus Bullard in the slot became the optimal option. Not a common scenario, but a valid one.

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RedRight49's picture

October 14, 2024 at 06:27 am

Always appreciate your " Snap Counts " summaries!

Appreciate too, your comments and quick analysis by position groups as well as the reminders as to who was inactive for the game or, who was newly rostered for the game!

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tobinrote's picture

October 14, 2024 at 06:32 am

overall a good game nicely helped along by the Cardinals. the only thing that had me yelling at the tv was how easy it was for Arizona to complete passes to the the tight end with Walker always it seems either not quite in the right place or without even modest coverage abilities. but how nice it is to see good safety play.

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T7Steve's picture

October 14, 2024 at 06:37 am

Thanks, TGR.

Myers was the only O-line that was called out for whiffing on a block during the broadcast, but I was worried about depth when they said he was down. I never heard what happened to him, however. Was surprised when they had Jenkins move over (though I shouldn't have been) and they got Morgan back healthy just in time. As soon as that happened, they got their best run up the middle of the game.

Unless I'm not understanding, fix this typo, TGR. "Bullard had 7 tackles (6 solo). Bullard had 4 solo tackles (including 1 tackle for loss) and a fumble recovery."

Two games in a row where the D gave up only 13 and some of that on a short field. I'll take that all season, sacks or no sacks. I didn't realize Alexander only played about 3/4s of the snaps. Was he on a snap count coming off injury?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 14, 2024 at 06:51 am

fixed. Bullard had 6 solo tackles and 1 assist. Evan Williams had 4 solo tackles.

Very happy with Bullard, Williams and Cooper. The RBs look so solid that I have not missed Marshawn Lloyd, but I do think he is going to be fun to watch as a runner. Hope he gets the pass pro and receiving down quickly.

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T7Steve's picture

October 14, 2024 at 06:59 am

I thought Brooks did well too. Much more depth in the RB room than I originally thought. Do you know how many carries he had? Seemed about at least 5.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 14, 2024 at 07:25 am

Brooks - 4 carries, 21 yards, 5.3/att, long of 11

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T7Steve's picture

October 14, 2024 at 07:45 am

Excellent! Thanks.

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LLCHESTY's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:04 am

I'd like to see LaFleur have some intermediate routes drawn up for Lloyd when he returns, both out of the backfield and split out. Give defenses something else to think about.

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GregC's picture

October 14, 2024 at 06:52 am

Good to see that Edgerrin Cooper played 66% of snaps. Last week I think he was at 38%, which was his highest percentage of the season to that point.

The biggest surprise with the defensive backs is that Nixon played every snap. A lot of them were on the perimeter, and as you noted, he held up pretty well there. I'm still not confident he would hold up against better receivers, but I give him credit for playing well. I wonder if the coaches now prefer him to Valentine on the perimeter or if maybe Valentine is not fully recovered from his injury.

Javon Bullard did not recover a fumble. The fumble recoveries were by Brooks, Alexander, and Clark.

Josh Myers returned to the game after his injury. Watch the highlights, and you will see him back in there. I heard that he had a stinger.

I don't consider Love's long TD throw to Doubs inaccurate or turnover-worthy. You can throw that pass as long as your receiver knows it might be coming--which unfortunately was not the case when he threw one of those to Wicks in the loss to the Vikings.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 14, 2024 at 07:28 am

It looked like a duck to me.

Fixing Bulard. Sigh, too busy yesterday. Had to go too fast to pop this out.

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HawkPacker's picture

October 14, 2024 at 09:08 am

Understandable TGR. Good article as usual.

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Guam's picture

October 14, 2024 at 07:21 am

I was surprised to see Morgan splitting snaps with Rhyan again (pre Myers injury). I thought Rhyan was playing well when Morgan was out. I guess the coaching staff wants to see Morgan get his share of development time. I also thought I saw Myers back in the game late in the fourth quarter. I will have to rewatch the game - maybe I was hallucinating.........

I was also very surprised at Nixon getting so much time on the perimeter at the expense of Stokes and Vallentine. I understand why Hafley wants to get both Bullard and Williams in the game (Bullard at slot), but I am not convinced Nixon is better on the perimeter than Vallentine or Stokes. The Cards don't have good WRs. Better teams do and that may spell trouble if Nixon is still outside.

Edit: I see that GregC also saw Myers back in late in the game. Maybe I wasn't hallucinating........

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T7Steve's picture

October 14, 2024 at 07:49 am

I didn't see Myers come back in and I thought I was watching for it. I think Morgan is the better run blocker (just my guess) and if so, it's good to get that established early as long as it's not a "tell".

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Guam's picture

October 14, 2024 at 08:13 am

I thought Rhyan has been run blocking pretty well too. Morgan is good so I can't complain about his development. I just hope the platooning isn't harming O-line cohesion.

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dobber's picture

October 14, 2024 at 08:28 am

As always, a big fan of snap counts. Thanks TGR!

With the game largely in hand, I would've liked to have seen more regulars sitting late. There was one point in the 4th quarter where Love was out in front of a ball-carrier throwing a pretty weak block, and my thought was, "I hope nobody takes his head off".

I think it was a no-brainer for Jenkins to slide over to C when Myers got dinged--especially with Rhyan having worked broadly across the IOL positions in camp. With Dillard inactive (healthy scratch), it also seems to confirm that Jenkins is the swing tackle, as well. I do think Myers returned to the game, though. The OL is getting better every week, but AZ was not a big test. Houston will challenge this team next week, especially in the passing game.

I said it yesterday, and I'll say it here, too: Jacobs brings a physical style, but he has balance--something that AJ Dillon seems to lack. There was one run in the second quarter where Jacobs sorted through trash at the LOS, did a little spin, immediately jumped over a rolling defender, and went for like 12 of 15 yards. Dillon never seemed to make those runs. Wilson is starting to remind me a lot of Maurice Jones Drew.

The Watson TD was a great route adjustment and Love putting the ball where Watson was the only one who could get it. This is a WR room that rotates pretty freely. Missing Wicks will hurt some, but there's plenty of depth to use. Kraft had a big game last week, and could've had a better game yesterday...Love just missed him a couple times.

Packers are clearly starting to see the strength of this defense is playmakers at S, and they're leaning harder into those guys each week. When was the last time we could say that?

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Bitternotsour's picture

October 14, 2024 at 09:02 am

Consider keeping the starters in a continuation of the preseason where they didn't play...

Continuity will matter, this team is growing. There'll be hiccups along the way, but as far as I understand they're still the youngest team in the league.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 14, 2024 at 09:52 am

I was at the game yesterday and noticed Stokes on the sideline most of the contest.

Has be been replaced by the grouping of Nixon and the 3 Samurai's at Safety...moving Bullard to slot, Williams alongside X, Nixon to the perimeter opposite Alexander?

Nixon is relatively new to playing consistently as a DB starter. Last season he showed he can play effective DB. He's playing even better this season. Stokes and Valentine seem to be more backups right now.

Also...some semantics, TGR. You continue to divide up the DL into "DL" who actually play DT...and "Edge" who play DE....3-4 terminology. I consider them all DL in the 4-3...and all are attacking one gap and penetrating. Before the DTs were asked to control two gaps and clog the middle. Meanwhile the DBs are all lumped together? The Safeties are playing far different roles under Hafley vs Barry. And it seems 3 of them will be on the field most snaps now. (maybe I am picking at nits)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 15, 2024 at 12:58 am

Fair enough as to the semantics. I do find some usefulness to separating the DL from the Edge. I want to know how often Hafley used more than two of Gary, LVN, Smith and Enagbare on the same play. There have been times when all 4 were on the field in passing situations. Perhaps I will just designate them as DTs and DEs.

As for the DBs, earlier in the season there was more movement between the safety and corner positions. Guys were sliding between box, slot, and perimeter corner alignments. It appears that guys are grabbing onto certain roles (an excellent thing when guys take the bull by the horns). We will see about separating them out.

I would love to know if Stokes was on the field for Marvin Harrison's 8 snaps, or at what points during the game Stokes played. I had to admit that Nixon held up (nice pass breakup on a 3rd down early in the game) even though I favor Valentine as the perimeter CB opposite Jaire. Heck, Valentine can't sniff the field, so what do I know.

I agree with CW about Nixon vs. the Cardinals' WRs. Greg Dortch is 5'7" and only ran a 4.59 forty (hence - undrafted but he has stayed in the league and a #4/#5 guy). Xavier Weaver is 6' but weighed just 169 pounds at the 2024 combine. He ran just a 4.49 (he did have a 1.48 10-yard dash so he is quick but his 7.00 3-cone is nothing to write home about). Those number meant Weaver was a UDFA. Michael Wilson (caught the TD pass) is a 2nd year guy drafted in the 3rd round in 2023 (94th). He ran just a 4.58 at 6'2" and 213 lbs. I mentioned the lack of drafted WRs for Arizona, but never really thought about Nixon in particular. All these guys match up okay for Nixon.

Houston brings Stephon Diggs (on pace for 1,300 yards), Nico Collins (1300 yards last year, on pace for a monstrous season at 113 yards per game - 1921 for the season) and Tank Dell (just 165 pounds but he put up over 700 receiving yards as a rookie last year). The Texans also have Dalton Schultz, who has had a rough start but the way GB handles TEs is probably thinking GB is a get well game.

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Coldworld's picture

October 14, 2024 at 10:14 am

“The offensive line had a good day run blocking as well, as the Packers gained 179 yards on 38 carries (4.7-yard average).”

No! Even a cursory look at the source of yards and ypc trashes that assertion—against a known-to-be-weak and injury weakened run D as well.

The OL did very well in pass pro—though against a team that has mostly had success through blitzes not from linemen coming in. The OL had a poor first quarter run blocking, was worse in quarters 2 & 3 and only showed some life in the 4th.

Of our first 3 quarters yards, most came either through Melton—certainly the average ypc boosting ones (27 on 2 carries at 13.5 ypc) and those were around the edge by a wide margin.

The bulk of our RB yards and plus YPC contribution all came from Wilson (7 for 54 at 7.7 ypc) and even Brooks (21 on 4 at 5.2 ypc). All of Brooks and most of Wilson’s opportunities and contributions came in the 4th quarter.

I’m not sure if Myers going out was the main catalyst, fatigue on the part of the AZ D, or some other adjustment, but to say we blocked well is preposterous, particularly inside. It’s certainly strange that an OL with 2 players both in that otherwise we insist on platooning was more effective than before Myers went out.

Jacobs made some hard yards early and looked less effective after he got dinged in the second quarter, but with little help. Despite squeezing through some minuscule cracks early, he averaged only 3.4 ypc despite running hard and decisively. He got very little help.

So of the 179 yards on 38 attempts (adding in Reed’s 1 for 0, Love’s handful and Krafts’ 2 yard direct snap), 90 plus came in the 4th or from Melton on 10 or 11 attempts. All that against a team that has been consistently bad defending the run, had injuries and added to them in game.

If the OL can’t do significantly better than that, and more so over the first 3 quarters then it won’t cut it against average or better run defenses. It’s going to make next week very difficult if we don’t improve dramatically. Against the Texans, establishing the run will be key to blunting their rush and also to keeping Stroud off the field and Mixon from pounding our D.

At some point the Packers need to, and we should, be more honest with ourselves about our interior OL based on actual performance. Until we learn to run block better or face up to personnel changes, we will always run the risk of being a good team only till we play one.

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Bitternotsour's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:01 am

I guess if you take out the good plays then the preponderance of plays are bad or neutral.

That's your point, right? I prefer the scoreboard method.

They're 4-2 and headed to 11+ wins. Can't win the super bowl if you're not in the playoffs.

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Coldworld's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:16 am

No. That was self evidently not my point. If you are going to put that little effort in to reading then why bother to share the un-wisdom of your resulting smug response? Be a happy ostrich. Thats your choice.

To disagree is fine, provided you know what you are disagreeing with. To dismiss without attempting to comprehend let alone consider and rebut is simply burying your head in the sand unconscionably loudly.

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NFLfan's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:46 am

@CW-excellent summary

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Bitternotsour's picture

October 14, 2024 at 12:32 pm

Smug is my stock in trade, yours is Josh Myers and offensive line hatred. We all have crosses to bear. My rebuttal will continue to be scoreboard, bitches.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 14, 2024 at 12:37 pm

I think you read that correctly. Only yards gained by RBs really count, and even then, not the average-skewing runs.

In Other Words, this is a continuation of the narrative that our offensive line isn't very good, especially because of Josh Myers. And the only way you can reconcile this with the fact that we're one of the league's most productive offenses is by saying we're getting these yards DESPITE a bad Oline.

And you make that argument by manipulating stats to diminish what's being accomplished, which is the main reason that I'm a scoreboard guy like you.

Best Packer rushing team since 1971. That's a half century, and it's being accomplished with a below-average offensive line. If you want to believe t hat.

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Bitternotsour's picture

October 14, 2024 at 02:52 pm

A mental gordian knot we have here. Success despite failure is a hell of a bind to think your way out of, regardless of the sophistry in the arguments.

Alexander the great just cut the damn knot and ruled...

Four and two - two wins with a quarterback that some here argued had no business being in the NFL because he lacked certain "abilities". Seems like the arrow points up, that the team is showing signs of growth week in, week out. You know me though - ever the sunny optimist with his head in the sand.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 14, 2024 at 03:33 pm

For the record....

We're tied with SF for 8th and 9th in scoring offense
We're 2nd in TD passes.
We're 2nd in rushing, behind Baltimore (Jackson and Henry)

And we're doing this with a poor line. 3/5 of a line. A center who needs to be replaced. An offensive line coach (Butkus) who gets attacked after every loss. I'm at a loss. I can't reconcile how we're being so successful when, at the core,our HC is over matched.

I could use an explanation. The SIMPLEST explanation would be that the Oline is actually better than they have been given credit for. That's what I think.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 15, 2024 at 01:23 am

Lol. How are you doing?

I made that very argument. I think Jones made the run blocking look better than it was last year and I think Jacobs and his nasty jump cuts plus Wilson both make the run blocking look better than it is. Brooks looked pretty good, too.

More to your point, averaging 4.7 yards per carry is above league average. When I counted just the RBs, they averaged 4.72 per carry. Yes, Jacobs averaged just 3.4 per carry. I didn't see many run stuffs (Arizona had just 3 tackles for loss - I don't remember how many were on running plays). Last week I called the run blocking adequate and got some pushback.

I also think the playcalling has helped. The run game seems to go well when the Packers are able to attack the edges with success. Against Arizona, those jet sweeps, swing passes, and screens all worked quite well

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LLCHESTY's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:34 am

They had success in the 1st quarter running the ball and it tailed off after that until the 4th. Jacobs had a 14 yard run, a 9 yarder called back penalty that didn't effect the play and he and Wilson both had 7 yard runs. There were some 4 and 5 yard runs sprinkled in with some unsuccessful ones. They will never be dominant inside running team with Myers in the lineup and drafting tackles to play guard but like Wahle said Jacobs is pretty good at making chicken salad out of you know what.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 15, 2024 at 01:30 am

And some times it matters when a team plays well. GB scored 14 points in the first quarter to go up 14-0. Technically, they scored the second TD on the first play of the second quarter, but the drive started with 6:37 left in the first quarter.

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stockholder's picture

October 14, 2024 at 10:37 am

Walker had a good game.
He got boxed in a couple of times.
But the speed has returned.
Cooper had 38. ( 2nd)
They will get better and Better.

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Bitternotsour's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:05 am

two times already this year we are in agreement. hell may be freezing over in front of my very eyes.

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Coldworld's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:23 am

You are right Stock. Does Cooper not seem to help Walker be better, perhaps freer to focus on less? I hesitate to say more instinctive ..,

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LLCHESTY's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:39 am

I would have liked to see Wilson play more against their TE heavy sets but I had to play McBride in FF due to injuries, byes and inconsistency from my WRs so I won't complain too much.

I did notice Cooper playing in the middle on quite a few plays and looking good while doing so. Short of yanking the green dot helmet from Walker(do it Hafley!) I think it's heavy Cooper and Walker from here on out.

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Coldworld's picture

October 14, 2024 at 01:26 pm

I think Hafley was right to not adjust and believe McBride couldn’t change things whereas adjusting others that were working just might. One to watch I agree, to see what Hafley does against teams with good TEs in different circumstances, but yesterday I think he was right to shrug and hold to his plan.

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Lphill's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:27 am

how much more of Cooper does Hafley have to see before he makes him a starter?

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LLCHESTY's picture

October 14, 2024 at 11:50 am

If you listened to Hafley's pressers you'd understand why he's bringing him along slowly. He's playing more every week and I'm fine with it. What I'm not fine with is Wilson not getting in for McDuffie on passing downs but that's soon to be a moot point.

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GregC's picture

October 14, 2024 at 01:28 pm

Maybe Cooper IS a starter. For the first time, he had the second most snaps of all LBs--12 more than the #3 guy, McDuffie.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 15, 2024 at 01:51 am

PFF stuff:

1. RT Zach Tom: 88.1
2. TE Ben Sims: 83.8
3. RB Josh Jacobs: 74.2
4. QB Jordan Love: 72.1
5. RB Emanuel Wilson: 72.0

1. WR Malik Heath: 45.5
2. TE Tucker Kraft: 49.0
3. OL Jordan Morgan: 49.9
4. OL Elgton Jenkins: 52.1
5. LT Rasheed Walker: 53.0

Jacobs made 4 guys miss tackles. Yeah, I know he only averaged 3.4. PFF thought Sims was elite as a blocker. Interesting. Emanual Wilson forced 3 missed tackles on 7 carries (why isn't that elite?) and caught a 19 yard pass. PFF did not think Love had a turnover-worthy pass (unlike me). Love was under pressure on just 11 of 36 dropbacks (30.6%). [That's a good number, and he often had all day.]

Morgan gave up a pressure and was poor in the run game. Rasheed allowed 4 hurries and had a holding penalty (declined). Jenkins gave up a pressure and was penalized twice. PFF does not like WRs and TEs who are there primarily to block. Kraft did run 29 routes and Heath ran 5: I wonder how often either was the first or second option?

1. S Evan Williams: 93.3
2. DL Karl Brooks: 93.0
3. DE Rashan Gary: 81.7
4. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 81.0
5. CB Jaire Alexander: 70.7

1. DE Lukas Van Ness: 30.0
2. DL Kenny Clark: 44.0
3. DE Preston Smith: 44.2
4. LB Quay Walker: 49.2
5. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 51.3

Jaire missed a tackle and technically allowed the TD. LVN had no pressured on 17 rushing plays and struggled against the run. Clark had 2 pressures but missed 2 tackles and struggled against the run. Quay Walker tackled well (11 tackles, 10 solo), but he allowed 9 (count 'em - if true) completions into his coverage. McDuffie missed 3 tackles and allowed 2 completions. [I am surprised by Quay a bit, but IDK: GB makes TEs look fabulous, and RBs often have a good day receiving as well.]

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