Packers Snap Counts Vs. Denver: Week 15, 2025
Packers defense can't find the handle or get off the field in a loss to the Broncos.

The Packers elevated RB Pierre Strong from the practice squad for the third time this year because of concern that a knee injury might keep Jacobs sidelined, combined with Emanuel Wilson having a virus and missing practice. In the end, both Jacobs and Wilson were active and played, so Strong was one of the inactive players after all.
The only inactive player due to health was WR Savion Williams. OL Donovan Jennings, NT Nazir Stackhouse, NT Bohanna, Edge Barryn Sorrell, and RB Strong were healthy scratches. The return of Lucas Van Ness to the active list led to Sorrell being sidelined as the Packers decided to keep Aaron Mosby available for special teams. The Packers also apparently prefer to have Jordan Riley active, despite his unimpressive debut last week, over either Stackhouse or the recently acquired Bohanna. The Packers also decided to have just four defensive tackles available despite playing in the high altitude of Denver. QB Malik Willis was active but did not play.
Injuries to Micah Parsons, Zach Tom, Evan Williams, Christian Watson, and Josh Whyle might influence some upcoming decisions the Packers have to make with players who are on the 21-day window after being activated from IR and PUP lists. RB Marshawn Lloyd (out with a calf but who reportedly recently hurt his hamstring), Edge Brenton Cox, and DE Collin Oliver all must be activated to the 53-man roster by December 21 or they revert to the IR list, ending their respective seasons. If the Whyle cannot recover by next Saturday for the Chicago game, the Packers will probably elevate one of their two tight ends on the practice squad.
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Belton | 66 | 100 | 6/23% |
| Rhyan | 66 | 100 | 6/23% |
| Walker | 66 | 100 | 6/23% |
| Banks | 66 | 100 | 6/23% |
| Kinnard | 41 | 62 | 6/23% |
| Tom | 27 | 41 | 2/8% |
| Morgan | 0 | 0 | 6/23% |
| Monk | 6/23% |
The run blocking was arguably adequate, especially if one grades on a curve since Denver has an excellent run defense. The team gained 115 yards on 20 carries (5.75-yard average) and the running backs averaged 5.375 yards per carry. Those are good numbers. Jacobs had a big run for a 40-yard touchdown. The run blocking was disappointing and inconsistent other than Jacobs' long touchdown run: the running backs gained 3.07 yards per carry on their other carries. That said, the Packers had a +0.12 EPA on running plays, which is in the 88th percentile.
The pass blocking was not very good though it held its own in the first half for the most part. Denver had 5 quarterback hits in the first half and no sacks, though 2 additional QB hits were erased by a roughing the passer penalty. The pocket was often very constricted because the Broncos got some interior push and their Edge players collapsed the sides of the pocket, giving Love very little room to maneuver. The Broncos finished with 15 QB hits and 3 sacks per NFLgsis. The Packers allowed a whopping 31 pressures, according to PFF. The Broncos schemed up 7 unblocked pressures. Rasheed Walker had 4 penalties called on him and Belton added another. Zach Tom left the game with about 4 minutes remaining in the second quarter and he did not return. He was replaced by Darrian Kinnard, who probably is better at guard. [Tom said he does not think there is any structural damage to his knee but the nature and extent of his injury remains to be seen.]
After allowing 13 pressures last week against the Bears, the Packers allowed 31 pressures, including 3 sacks, 19 hurries, and 8 QB hits. Pro Football Focus indicated that Rasheed Walker allowed just 1 pressure! [I have to wonder if that is a misprint.] Walker had 4 penalties, including a hold, 2 false starts and an ineligible lineman downfield. Belton allowed 3 pressures (2 hurries and 1 sack). Rhyan allowed 2 hurries and 1 QB hit. Aaron Banks allowed 5 pressures (3 hurries, 1 QB hit, 1 sack). Banks had all kinds of trouble with Zach Allen, who had 8 pressures. Kinnard allowed 4 pressures (3 hurries and 1 sack) in 27 pass rush snaps, a 14.8% rate. Tom allowed 0 pressures in 18 pass rushing snaps.
RUNNING BACKS:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs | Routes | Targets |
| Jacobs | 36 | 55 | 16 | 3 | |
| Brooks | 17 | 26 | 14/54% | 12 | 2 |
| Wilson | 13 | 20 | 6/23% | 6 | 0 |
Josh Jacobs gained 73 yards on 12 carries (6.08-yards/carry), including a 40-yard touchdown run. He had one nice touchdown run erased by a silly penalty (illegal motion for not getting set in time) on Musgrave, but the Packers still got a touchdown when Jacobs caught a beautiful 14-yard touchdown pass on a very contested catch. Jacobs caught 2 of 3 targets overall for 19 yards. He made some tacklers miss and had a fine day. Jacobs was good in pass protection, allowing 1 pressure on 6 pass rush blocking snaps. He appeared to be on a pitch count.
Emanuel Wilson gained 3 yards on 2 attempts. He allowed a pressure even though he only pass protected on 2 snaps. Wilson had a muff on a kickoff return that forced him to take a kickoff out of the end zone. That led to poor field position. He ran into RT Kinnard's back on one bad-looking run, though Kinnard had been pushed back off the line of scrimmage. Brooks gained 10 yards on 2 carries and caught 1 of 2 targets for 6 yards. He did not allow a pressure in 3 pass blocking reps. He had 2 assisted tackles on special teams.
The Packers need to keep paying Jacobs. PFF assigned an initial grade of 84.4 to Jacobs.
QUARTERBACKS:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Love | 66 | 100 | |
| Willis | DNP |
Much was asked of Jordan Love and he delivered much of the time. However, eventually tight pockets and 15 quarterback hits led to bad results. I am not a fan of continuously throwing off of one's back foot, but perhaps that is just me and I have to admit that Love had reason to fade back given the pass rush and the continuous interior push the guards and center allowed.
In the first half, Love got the ball out extremely quickly. He completed 17 of 22 passes for 215 yards and a touchdown, good for a 122.3 passer rating. Love finished with 24 completions on 40 attempts (60%) for 276 yards (6.90 yards/attempt). He threw for 1 touchdown and 2 interceptions. His passer rating was 68.3. That means Love completed 7 of 18 for 61 yards in the second half with no touchdowns and 2 interceptions. He ran for 29 yards on 3 scrambles with a long of 24.
TIGHT ENDS:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs | Routes | Targets |
| Fitzpatrick | 46 | 70 | 6/23% | 28 | 4 |
| Musgrave | 34 | 52 | 1/4% | 24 | 6 |
| Whyle | 2 | 3 |
Musgrave caught his 4 of his 5 targets for 52 yards with a long of 26. He was penalized for not getting set in time after he went into motion. Musgrave continues to show that he can be a useful member of the team. Fitzpatrick caught 3 of 4 targets for 18 yards. Josh Whyle had no targets. He left the game very early after he tried to run block on a third and 1 and was demolished by the Broncos' 200-pound safety, Talanoa Hufanga, leading to a 2-yard loss. That forced the Packers to kick a 53-yard field goal. Whyle was diagnosed with a concussion, so he did not return. The tight ends did not allow a hurry in 3 pass blocking reps.
WIDE RECEIVERS:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs | Routes | Targets |
| Doubs | 50 | 76 | 2/8% | 33 | 4 |
| Reed | 43 | 65 | 31 | 6 | |
| Wicks | 28 | 42 | 21 | 2 | |
| Watson | 27 | 41 | 19 | 5 | |
| Golden | 23 | 35 | 19 | 4 | |
| Melton | 9 | 14 | 9/35% | 3 | 1 |
Watson caught 3 of his 5 targets for 29 yards with a long of 19. He left the game with a chest injury after falling heavily to the ground while trying to catch a bomb. Although he went to the hospital, word is that Watson will fly back with the team to Green Bay tonight. Jayden Reed caught 5 of his 6 targets for 55 yards with a long of 29. Matthew Golden caught 3 of 4 targets for 55 yards with a long of 26. Wicks caught 1 of 2 targets for 6 yards. Romeo Doubs caught 2 of 3 targets for 36 with a long of 26. Bo Melton was targeted once but had no completions. He made a nice downfield block on Josh Jacobs' touchdown run.
DEFENSIVE TACKLES:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Brooks | 51 | 75 | 10/38% |
| Wooden | 45 | 66 | 6/23% |
| Brinson | 22 | 32 | 4/15% |
| Riley | 16 | 24 | 4/15% |
Wooden had 3 tackles (1 solo) and a stop. Brooks had 1 solo tackle and a stop. Brooks, Wooden, and Jordan Riley each had 1 hurry. There was very little interior push, which allowed Nix to step up most of the time. Brinson had 2 tackles (1 solo). Jordan Riley had no official statistics. The unit was pretty stout. The Broncos gained 89 yards on 31 carries, a 2.87-yard average. Their running backs gained 71 yards on 23 carries, a 3.09-yard average, with a long of 8. The Packers once again decided to have only 4 defensive tackles active for this game, despite that altitude and their defense visibly getting tired last week. The Packers played 1.95 defensive tackles on average per play.
DEFENSIVE ENDS:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Gary | 41 | 60 | |
| Parsons | 40 | 59 | |
| Enagbare | 39 | 57 | 6/23% |
| Van Ness | 22 | 32 | |
| Mosby | 2 | 3 | 20/77% |
Gary had 3 solo tackles and a QB hit. Van Ness had 2 solo tackles and Parsons had 2 tackles (1 solo). Enagbare had 1 solo tackle and a QB hit. He allowed a completion for 15 yards. Gary, Parsons, and Van Ness each had 1 run stop. Parsons had 5 pressures, all hurries, in 23 pass rushing snaps, good for a fine 23.8% pass rush rate. PFF gave Parsons an 89 grade. Enagbare had 4 hurries in 19 pass rushing snaps, a 21.1% rate. Gary had 4 hurries in 24 opportunities, a 16.7% rate. Van Ness had 1 hurry in 11 chances. The Broncos allowed 18 pressures overall. Nix often had good pockets and adequate time to pick apart the Packers secondary, especially when they were in zone. Mosby had an assisted tackle on special teams.
LINEBACKERS:
| Players | Snaps | % | STs |
| Cooper | 68 | 100 | 4/15% |
| Walker | 64 | 94 | 4/15% |
| McDuffie | 26 | 38 | 20/77% |
| Hopper | 1 | 1 | 16/62% |
| Welch | 1 | 1 | 14/54% |
Walker had 9 tackles (3 solo) plus a tackle for loss. PFF assigned that TFL as a run stop to Walker. He allowed both of his targets to be completed for 28 yards, a 118.8 passer rating. Cooper had 8 tackles (7 solo) with 2 tackles for loss, a pass defensed and a fumble recovery. He had 2 run stops, 1 hurry on 2 pass rushing snaps, and a forced fumble. He allowed 2 of his 4 targets to be completed for only 7 yards. This was one of Cooper's best games. McDuffie had 1 solo tackle and a QB hit. He had 1 stop and he did not rush the passer. He was not targeted, per PFF. Hopper had no defensive statistics but he had 2 tackles (1 solo) special teams. McDuffie had an assisted tackle on special teams.
DEFENSIVE BACKS:
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| McKinney | 68 | 100 | 11/42% |
| Valentine | 67 | 99 | |
| Nixon | 67 | 99 | 4/15% |
| Williams | 47 | 69 | 7/27% |
| Bullard | 32 | 47 | 7/27% |
| Anderson | 20 | 29 | 16/62% |
| Hobbs | 10 | 15 | 2/8% |
| Olapado | 0 | 0 | 15/38% |
| Hadden | 0 | 0 | 7/27% |
Mckinney had 7 tackles (6 solo) and he had 3 passes defensed, one of which should have been an interception and another that might have been. PFF correctly notes that McKinney did not allow any of his 4 targets to be completed, which results in a 39.6 passer rating allowed. He had 3 run stops. Evan Williams had 5 tackles (4 solo). PFF assigned 1 run stop and noted that he allowed 2 completions on 2 targets for 27 yards, a 118.8 passer rating allowed. Nixon had 5 tackles (4 solo) with 1 run stop. PFF credited Nixon with allowing 6 of 7 passes to be completed for 90 yards, a 158.3 passer rating allowed. He allowed at least 2 touchdowns. Bullard had 3 tackles (1 solo). He allowed both of his targets to be completed for 38 yards and a touchdown, a 158.3 pass rating allowed. Valentine had 2 solo tackles and a pass defensed. He allowed 7 completions on 8 target for 93 yards and a touchdown, a 154.7 passer rating allowed. Everyone in the secondary had a brutal day except McKinney and according to PFF, Nate Hobbs. PFF assigned an initial grade of 83.5 to Hobbs and 92.1 to McKinney.
Bo Nix finished 23 of 34 (67.65%) for 302 yards (8.88 yards/attempt) and 4 touchdown, good for a 134.4 passer rating. Nix calmly stood in secure pockets and picked apart the Packers' zone defense. He showed more escape ability and ability to throw accurately on the run than I thought he possessed. Nix is not nearly as fast as Caleb Williams: Parsons and even Gary were able to close the distance even if they never sacked Nix.
Make no mistake: there were roughly 5 passes that the Packers could have intercepted, with at least 2 being chances that the DB had a very good chance at. Valentine had a pick 6 if he had just broken on the pass a tick faster, but instead it was completed for a nice gain. A couple of tipped passes fell harmlessly to the ground for Denver. Sitting back in that zone could have worked, but it did not.
SPECIAL TEAMS:
Whelan punted once for 57 yards but it was a touchback, so his net was just 37 yards. McManus made all of his extra points and all of his field goals. Emanuel Wilson muffed a kickoff return and had to bring it out of the end zone, which resulted in starting at the 14 yard line. The Packers did manage to get a field goal despite the poor return and limited time left in the half.
All statistics nflgsis or pro football focus.
Photo coutesy of Ron Chenoy, Imagn Images.
OL: 5.03 (not as high as the last few weeks)
RB: 1.00
TE: 1.24 (down a bit due to the injury to Whyle)
WR: 2.73
DT: 1.95
DE: 2.12
LB: 2.35
DB: 4.57
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Comments (42)
Thegreatreynoldo
December 15, 2025 at 04:10 am
The guards had a really rough day. DE Zach Allen had 6 QB hits lining up opposite Aaron Banks and Jonathan Franklin-Myers had 4 lining up against Belton/Rhyan. PFF has Nik Bonitto with just 1 hurry. I thought I saw Rasheed give up more than that. One problem was that the Love could not step up into the pocket making it hard for the tackles to run pass rushers wide and upfield. That makes the OTs look worse than they are. Jonathan Allen (24.2% pressure rate), Edges Jonah Eliss (16.7%) and Jonathan Cooper (16%), Edge Dondrea Tillman (25%), NT DJ Jones (18.2%) and DI Malcolm Roach (15.4%) and DI Franklin-0Myers (11.5%) are all getting raises in part due to this game.
After the Packers went up 9 in the second half by scoring a TD (helped by a weak PI call drawn by golden), I had visions of going up two scores - either 12 points or 16 pts - to put Denver in a hole, widen the TOP in GB's favor and unleash the pass rush. But no, after forcing a 3 and out, GB on first down chucks a bomb down the middle to a well-covered Christian Watson who is covered by All Pro Pat Surtain. That results in: 1) a 9-second drive; 2) a turnover; 3) an injured Christian Watson. After scoring on their first 5 possessions, the pack goes INT, punt, Field goal, INT, Downs (7 plays, 1 yard with 2 sacks for minus 19), and Downs (4 plays, minus 5 yards).
Can the Packers compete in the playoffs? Not without Parsons, Tom, Watson, Evan Williams, and Hobbs. What about if GB gets everyone back in time for the playoffs except Parsons? Yeah, I think GB can beat anybody. Beating 4 playoff caliber teams in the playoffs was improbable with Parsons, but they stood a decent chance and would have been favored in a couple of those game if they were healthy. Without Parsons (and Kraft and Wyatt, of course), yes it is possible, just more improbable. I firmly believe that there are no complete teams in the NFL this year. I won't make bet the mortgage.
Nor do I think the Packers should start Jordan Morgan at LT (or Jacob Monk at center for that matter), just ye, if ever. I do want to see more of Golden and Brenton Cox if he can get healthy.
dobber
December 15, 2025 at 08:16 am
"One problem was that the Love could not step up into the pocket"
Romo was marveling at Love throwing off his back foot yesterday, but on many of those throws he had no way to step into the throw.
"Can the Packers compete in the playoffs?"
One game at a time. It's unclear what the severity of some of the injuries suffered (besides Parsons) were. There seems to be some indication that Watson's injury wasn't as bad as it seemed at the time. It seems that Tom and Williams are both going to miss at least a couple games.
The bottom line is that this Packers team now looks a lot like the 2024 Packers (minus 2 DTs). They're going to have to reinvent themselves in some ways for the stretch run. Maybe that means some new groupings and player usage for the Bears this week which might set the Bears on their heels a little. Maybe LaF and Hafley just try to plug-and-play with replacements and do the same things. I think that's a mistake.
"I do want to see more of Golden and Brenton Cox if he can get healthy."
Expecting that they'll activate Cox this week and that he'll be active for Sunday in specific packages. They can't use Golden the same way they use Watson (assuming he's out), but he's the speed guy now. They need Reed to bounce back after he left Sunday's game late, too. The Bears are very beatable.
Guam
December 15, 2025 at 08:27 am
Despite all of the other problems (which are normal against very good teams) the Packers could have won this game if their butterfingered secondary came up with one or two interceptions from their five legitimate opportunities. Nix gave them plenty of chances (actually reminded me of Favre a little bit) to win this game and they failed to convert even one of them. Can't do that and still beat a very good team.
HawkPacker
December 16, 2025 at 11:56 am
Also, early on, when the packers were in the red zone, we got called for a penalty twice. We had to settle for field goals rather than touchdowns.
Come on people, concentrate!
stockholder
December 15, 2025 at 05:16 am
The packers will regroup and move on.
While everyone points at parsons injury.
I'm going to point at his back problem.
Back problems can cause LCL injuries!
And the first step to move on.
Is not wait till next year.
The Protection of Love is obvious.
But so is Confidence and Time possession!
Who ever called the Bomb to Watson.
Should be reprimanded.
It's Time- The Bears must be beat.
And we still have bodies that want snaps.
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 07:35 am
“Back problems can cause LCL injuries!” LOL….where do you come with this sh**……yes a back injury could contribute to any injury, especially your lower body, but it isn’t the cause. The cause was from his leg/foot hitting the ground wrong as he tries to push off into a different direction. Also, i haven’t heard about him having back issues since the first couple of games of the year.
dobber
December 15, 2025 at 08:17 am
Narratives.
rstain99
December 16, 2025 at 05:52 am
They will need to dig deep, wake up Gary from his deep sleep. Van Ness has achance now to show why maybe just maybe he was drafted where he was. yikes. There are no cupckaes left in the 3 games this will show their mettle. clock manangement is still a problem, and whoever told MLF to throw the red flag in 4th quarter should be taken to task. clearly had two feet in. Thats been his achillies since he arrived years ago just can't manage clock. Love takes forever at line.
jvole
December 15, 2025 at 05:32 am
I know that losing Parsons and Watson is devastating but losing Tom completely changed the game. You could see the right side slowly caving in and Love getting nervous feet. Brutal game.
T7Steve
December 15, 2025 at 06:36 am
Yes. A tale of two halves. Unbelievable how that changes blocking assignments and help through the whole line. And like TGR says, Walker and Banks were having their issues, even before Tom got hurt. Have to expect troubles playing against that D and they made correct adjustments. It didn't help when the Packers started challenging the deep part of the field. Played right into their pass rush and coverage.
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 07:44 am
T7Steve… Why would throwing deep into their coverage be bad? Denver plays some of the most single high safety and man coverage in the NFL. That’s exactly the kind of defense you want to attack with deep passes. I’m assuming your comment was about the throw to Watson, which was single coverage—a play we’ve seen succeed many times over the past four games and one that’s contributed to our wins. Surtain just made an incredible play.
Most posts on this site keep saying to be more aggressive, and that’s exactly what that was. I agree with that call and others like it, especially against this type of scheme. It also helps open up the run game and may have been a reason why Jacobs found the lane for his big play.
T7Steve
December 15, 2025 at 08:04 am
Throwing deep plays into their pass rush and saying single coverage sounds good unless you acknowledge that it was Surtain covering.
dobber
December 15, 2025 at 08:19 am
Agreed. Teams that have given Denver the most trouble have done so by hitting chunk plays downfield. That's the book on that defense. Until Watson got hurt--and it's a fluke play: those who want to say they exposed Watson unnecessarily to injury are just stupid--it was working and they were pushing Denver up and down the field.
jannesbjornson
December 15, 2025 at 12:33 pm
They just decided to attack the wrong guy, namely the 2024 Defensive Player of the Year. If Moss would have been the target, no problem. I was very apprehensive as the third quarter unfolded. La Fleur doesn't seem to have a plan to maintain the lead and grind time off the clock. The Bears were hitting all cylinders, crunching the Brown's fronts. This guy has to have a plan to keep his team focused on winning in the second half. I would have liked to see more of Brooks in the running game.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 15, 2025 at 09:35 am
I don't think it was a bad play call in general. The book on Denver is getting chunk plays, and GB is good at explosives as well. I don't think the play call had anything to do with Watson getting injured. (I see where people can read that into my comment above, and since I wrote it I will live with it/leave it unedited so folks can follow the comment thread). Watson only has utility if the team uses his strengths. One of Watson's strengths is beating man coverage and contested catches.
I was worried about the altitude. I was worried about the defense getting gassed. TOP was pretty even at the time (probably GB had possessed the ball a couple of minutes longer than Denver at the time). Taking a shot is fine but he was not open. No, I don't think Love should have tossed a 50/50 ball or even a 70/30 ball up there for grabs. I thought the Packers would win if they played a pretty clean game.
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 11:09 am
"Taking a shot is fine, but he wasn’t open. I don’t think Love should have tossed up a 50/50 ball, or even a 70/30 ball, for grabs."
Looking at many of his catches over the past few years, you’ll notice he often isn’t open, yet he’s excellent at fighting for and catching the ball. In single coverage, the best WRs don’t need to be open—they have an advantage because they can see the ball when the defender can’t, and they’re great at adjusting to it. Usually, the defender doesn’t have enough time to adjust because by the time they spot the ball, it’s too late. Let’s face it, Surtain made a great play and maybe it was too much risk, but no risk it no biscuit!
T7Steve
December 15, 2025 at 11:29 am
Weren't most of the "chunk" plays shorter to medium passes that had yards after catch? With the possible exception of Musgrave who can't seem to keep his feet yet after the catch. Maybe he will soon though, he's starting to show up more and more.
Guam
December 15, 2025 at 08:09 am
Concur jvole. The Packer offense started slipping as soon as Kinnard took the field. Was surprised it wasn't Morgan instead of Kinnard but Morgan hasn't been impressive lately either.
Leatherhead
December 15, 2025 at 11:39 am
I think there's a dropoff from Tom to Kinnard, and that's not a dig. Now you have a line that has a backup at Center, a rookie with 4 starts at RG, and a backup at RT. How far can you stretch something before it starts to tear?
Morgan is supposed to be a starter for us next year....it would be reassuring to see him on the field, but I think that Belton meant he didn't have to play RG so he's been our backup LT and Kiinnard has been the backup RT.
T7Steve
December 15, 2025 at 06:08 am
"OL: 5.03 (not as high as the last few weeks)"
Do you think that's because of Tom's injury so Kinnard was taking his place instead of playing the 6th, TGR?
Bears' week. Again.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 15, 2025 at 09:14 am
I should think so. I imagine that Morgan or Monk will get reps as the 6th lineman or perhaps Morgan gets reps at RT and Kinnard goes back to being the 6th lineman. I would have thought Fitzpatrick and Musgrave could soak up Whyle's snaps but there might be some packages that require 2 blocking TEs, I suppose, and that is not Musgrave. Whyle is not great at it either, but .....
By sheer coincidence, I looked up the Packers and Broncos transactions ( I look up each team's transactions every time I write this article) and noticed that the Broncos released Marcedes Lewis and then signed him to their practice squad. I assume he is washed but he has played 66 snaps on offense, though he got no touches. Lewis last played for GB in 2022: that is quite a while ago.
T7Steve
December 15, 2025 at 09:37 am
Thanks.
It's a sad day when the name Monk comes up for reps and I haven't even seen him play this season. Doesn't mean he hasn't. I just haven't seen him.
tobinrote
December 15, 2025 at 07:19 am
a real second half collapse which usually means getting out-coached. but the chopping block for whomever called that 'bomb' to watson, whether it be Love, who even if MLF made the call, should not have thrown to a totally covered receiver. so now we have lost one of our two best offensive players, Kraft (the other 'best' being Jacobs) and our best defensive player, our best offensive lineman and the Bears taking care of business against Cleveland which was beyond us, and we have another disappointing year. we see too that Morgan cannot even get on the field and rightly so, a first round pick squandered yet again.
T7Steve
December 15, 2025 at 07:30 am
Don't have to worry about first round picks for a while so it should be a relief to you.
tobinrote
December 15, 2025 at 08:51 am
the consistent disability of Gutey to make first round picks made the dealing away of them a no brainer to acquire Parsons. Like giving up Morgan and LVN, to mention only the two latest. ss
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 08:00 am
Whoever called the “bomb” was a smart play against single coverage. Majority of the time Watson comes down with that play. A WR like Watson has a big advantage over the defender who rarely have the ability to see the ball coming. It was just a great play by Surtain. I’m all for throwing to Watson or any other WR on our team who is good at catching against contested single coverage, especially on first down.
dobber
December 15, 2025 at 08:24 am
"It was just a great play by Surtain."
The idea that it was a bad play call because a player fell awkwardly and got hurt is just plain stupid.
PeteK
December 15, 2025 at 09:48 am
I don't mind the bombs to Watson once in a while bc of his height and speed and to at the least loosen up the D. However, Love is just too inconsistent with those throws, even on the injury his throw was too short, but to his credit he did admit that he should do better.
GregC
December 15, 2025 at 10:35 am
The second half collapse had little or nothing to do with being out-coached. Mostly it was due to the Broncos winning the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Injuries were a contributing factor, in a big way.
NFLfan
December 15, 2025 at 07:21 am
There has been a lack of accountability by Brian Gutekunst re: OL roster construction. Several poor choices have been incredibly expensive both in Draft capital and other monies and there are no easy outs.
Morgan is a healthy scratch and we have no idea how he will fare as a LT next year. Banks, Kinnard, Belton are not holding up against a powerful Pass Rush, there are no first round picks, the Cap is tight and Jordan Love has no pocket in which to operate. And, he was hit 15 times. This is dangerous. Why didn't someone supervise Gutekunst?
Without Parsons, the DL is the same story.
Guam
December 15, 2025 at 08:07 am
The other guys get paid too.
dobber
December 15, 2025 at 08:21 am
"Morgan is a healthy scratch "
No. Morgan was active yesterday.
NFLfan
December 15, 2025 at 09:12 am
Morgan is nowhere near what he should be
Grandfathered
December 15, 2025 at 06:59 pm
The way R. Walker played this game, getting Morgan some reps at LT might be smart.
Leatherhead
December 15, 2025 at 08:12 am
Another offensive collapse. Our seasons ended in 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 with weak offensive showings, and IMO, you don't advance in the playoffs unless you can score points against a good defense.
Losing Watson and Jenkins and Tom and Kraft is losing 4 of our starting 11. Take any team out there, take four players out of the starting offense, and see how good they are.
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 08:20 am
Didn’t they just score 24 points against the best D? If our D played up to snuff we win this game. I would agree that the offense killed itself with penalties. They are drive killers.
Leatherhead
December 15, 2025 at 08:40 am
murf, we scored on the first possession of the second half, and then we took a nap. In the fourth quarter, we had repeated opportunities but could not move the ball.
24 points is the bare minimum for winning a playoff game. Most of the time, teams that win playoff games score more than that.
PeteK
December 15, 2025 at 10:00 am
You are both correct, a tale of two halves for both the D & O in the second half of the last two games. However, games are mostly won in the second half. Denver has been doing this all season, look at Seattle and Buffalo yesterday.
murf7777
December 15, 2025 at 11:14 am
I agree the best teams do come back in the second half, although I'd argue that it isn't very sustainable if it happens frequently, ala the bears and probably Denver. It's frustrating to lose the way we did when we were controlling the game for so long. Injuries & penalties certainly played a factor.
dobber
December 15, 2025 at 08:22 am
"Take any team out there, take four players out of the starting offense, and see how good they are."
I guess we'll find out.
LambeauPlain
December 15, 2025 at 10:25 am
It complementary football in the second half.
The Defense gave up 3 long TD drives in a row. The Offense over that time could only must a FG.
Then it was game over. The Broncos drained the clock with their last 3 possessions in the game....the Packers gained a MINUS 4 yards with their last 2.
The injuries deflated the team...their effort on the field in the 2nd half was a flat tire too. LaFleur and Hafley have a lot of work to do. Bisaccia needs to...aw never mind.
NFLfan
December 15, 2025 at 09:14 am
Same posters with the same excuses. Without one player, Tom, the OL is scarily weak.