Maggie’s Pre-Game Six Pack - 2024 Week 8
By MaggieLoney
The 5-2 Packers are on the road this week, traveling to Jacksonville to take on the 2-5 Jaguars. It’s Green Bay’s final matchup against the AFC South this season, and the Packers are currently 3-0 against the division. Here are six things to keep in mind going into Sunday’s matchup in sunny, 80-degree Florida.
1. Tens Across the Board
Quarterback Jordan Love is tied with Lamar Jackson for second in the league with 15 touchdowns each, behind only Tampa Bay’s Baker Mayfield with 18. What’s more impressive is that he’s missed two games this season, having only played in five while both Jackson and Mayfield have played in seven.
Love, though, is also tied for the league lead in interceptions with eight, alongside both Patrick Mahomes (six touchdowns) and Gardner Minshew (four touchdowns). While some of those picks were just bad decisions by Love, others weren’t really his fault (like a receiver falling down, for instance). That’s why interceptions are such a challenging metric when it comes to a quarterback’s success. And he’s only had two games this year with multiple picks. His three against the Vikings really skew his overall total.
Earlier this week, Head Coach Matt LaFleur had this to say about Love, “That’s his superpower. No matter what’s happened, whether good or bad, he continues to fight and be resilient and the moment is never too big for him.”
Love is commanding an offense that’s seventh in points for, averaging 26.6 points per game. They’re sixth in yards, averaging 383 yards per game, and fifth in net yards gained per pass attempt with 7.1. Individually, Love has thrown for at least 220 yards and two or more passing touchdowns in all five games this season, and he’s thrown four touchdowns twice. His completion percentages of 68.8% against the Cardinals and 72.7% against the Texans are his two highest of the season, too. The arrow remains straight up for Love and this offense as he finds himself further removed from injury and his receiving core gets back to full strength.
2. Volatile and Victorious
We say every week that turnovers are volatile and that it’s hard to imagine Green Bay’s defense sustaining the three turnover per game run they’d been averaging this season. Can the defense still win football games if they don’t generate any turnovers? Well, the answer is yes.
Enter the Texans at Lambeau Field. The Packers lost the turnover differential, giving the ball away three times, and still won the game 24-22. It was only the second time this season the Packers lost the turnover differential and committed multiple turnovers on offense.
Even after a game without a single turnover, the Packers defense still leads the league in takeaways with 17. Green Bay is tied for third in the NFL in turnover differential with the Bears, Lions, and Chargers at plus-six, behind the Bills (plus-10) and Steelers (plus-nine). Their 11 giveaways would be tied for third in the league, but their 17 takeaways keep their turnover differential in the positives.
3. JAGs on Defense
The Jaguars are a struggling defensive unit this season, ranked 30th in the league in points against and giving up an average of 27.7 points per game. They’re 32nd in red zone defense, too, allowing touchdowns 78.3% of the time. Jacksonville ranks 32nd in passing touchdowns, allowing 16 through seven games, and 31st in passing yards, giving up an average of 273.4 yards per game.
Jacksonville only has three turnovers all season, with a single interception on the year by safety Andre Cisco. Cisco’s running mate is former Packer Darnell Savage who’s played in four games for the Jaguars this season as a starting safety. He tallied two passes defensed and eight total tackles in those four appearances and is allowing a 115.4 passer rating when targeted.
The Jaguars have yet to have a game this season with multiple turnovers on defense, but have given the ball away at least twice on offense in three games.
When it comes to the pass rush, the Jaguars have 16 sacks on the year, with Travon Walker leading the charge with six sacks on his own. Jacksonville has 32 quarterback hits and 36 tackles for loss through seven weeks.
While the defense struggles against the pass, the unit does better in the run game, ranked seventh in rushing yards per attempt and allowing an average of 4.2 yards per attempt on defense. Still, the Packers will have ample opportunities to sustain drives and score points on Sunday. Jacksonville is 26th in the NFL defending against third downs and 27th in yards allowed.
4. Tiger turned Jaguar
The Jaguars spent their 2024 first-round pick on LSU receiver Brian Thomas Jr., giving newly-paid quarterback Trevor Lawrence a long-term weapon in teal and black. Thomas Jr. leads the Jaguars in targets, receptions, yards, first downs, and touchdowns through seven games. He’s currently sixth in the league in receiving yards with 513 and is one of six receivers to eclipse the 500-yard mark so far this season.
Rounding out the receiving core is Christian Kirk (25 receptions, 320 yards, one touchdown) and Gabriel Davis (18 receptions, 217 yards, two scores). Tight end Evan Engram doesn’t have a touchdown yet this season but has added 142 yards on 16 receptions in three games this season. He provides another receiving option for Lawrence now that he’s back healthy.
Lawrence has thrown nine touchdowns this season with three picks. The passing offense has been right around average this year, ranked 15th in attempts, 19th in yards, and 21st in net yards gained per attempt. If the Packers can lock down Thomas Jr., they shouldn’t have too much trouble getting out of EverBank Stadium with a win.
5. What a Rush
Josh Jacobs is currently fourth in the NFL in rushing yards with 540 through seven weeks. That’s roughly 77 yards on the ground per game, and it’s been more than enough to get the job done. Jacobs is averaging 4.5 yards per carry with a long of 34 yards this season and has four runs of 20-plus yards.
When it comes to team stats, the Packers rank fifth in the league averaging 155 yards per game. They’re fifth in the NFL in total yards and sixth in yards per attempt at 5.0 yards per carry. Four different Packers players have over 100 rushing yards this season. Behind Jacobs, there’s Emanuel Wilson (221), Malik Willis (114), and Jayden Reed (110). Last week’s game against the Texans was one of only two games this season where the Packers didn’t put up at least 125 rushing yards on the ground.
On the opposite sideline, the Jaguars have two talented backs in Travis Etienne and Tank Bigsby. It’s unclear if Etienne will be able to play this week with a hamstring injury, but Bigsby has been more than capable of shouldering the load as Jacksonville’s RB1. In fact, Bigsby leads the team in yards (415) and rushing touchdowns with four. He’s averaging a whopping 6.2 yards per attempt. Etienne has 230 rushing yards and two scores, averaging 4.1 yards per carry.
The Jaguars offense had its best day on the ground all season against the Patriots last week in London, rushing for 171 yards. On the season, the Jaguars are 25th in rushing attempts, but 12th in rushing yards, 15th in rushing touchdowns, and fourth in yards per attempt at 5.1 yards per carry.
Against the Packers last week, Joe Mixon rushed 25 times for 115 yards and two scores. Green Bay has given up over 120 rushing yards five times this season, but the defense is still ranked ninth overall in yards per attempt, allowing an average of 4.3 yards per carry.
6. Whelan and Dealin’
While the Packers have had plenty of struggles on special teams this season, their punter has not been one of them. Daniel Whelan, in his second season with the team, is sixth in the NFL in net punting yards at 43.9. Whelan has eight punts inside the 20 this season with two touchbacks, and opposing returners have only returned punts a total of 60 yards through seven games. One-third of his punts in 2024 end up inside the opposing team’s 20.
Against the Texans, Whelan may have had his best game of the season. He had 258 net punting yards and averaged 56.8 yards per punt with a long of 66. His career long of 74 yards came this season against the Vikings and ranks fourth in the NFL.
The Packers may have also found their kicker in 11-year pro Brandon McManus. He was only tasked with making one field goal last Sunday against Houston, but he won the game in walk-off fashion successfully converting a 45-yard attempt before leaping into the stands at Lambeau Field. He also went 3-for-3 on extra points. He played one season in Jacksonville after nine years with the Broncos, so he’ll return to a familiar location on Sunday.
What the Packers don’t have, currently, is a definitive punt returner. Keisean Nixon is the mainstay on kickoffs, returning five this season for 142 yards with a long of 37. He’s averaging 28.4 yards per return. But when it comes to punt returns, duties have been split between Nixon and Jayden Reed. Corey Ballentine even went out to return a punt last week against Houston. Nixon is averaging 12 yards per return with a long of 39. Reed is averaging 5.6 yards per return with a long of 12.
The problem probably isn’t necessarily who is back returning punts, but more the mentality that goes along with when to return a punt and when to let it bounce. That’s something special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia is going to need to hammer home to whoever is back there on Sunday. In Rick Gosselin’s annual special teams rankings, the Packers finished 22nd in 2022 before falling to 29th in 2023. That’s simply not good enough for a team with Super Bowl aspirations. The unit was also last in the league in penalties in 2023 with 19 for 178 yards. The league average was 11.9 penalties for 97.9 yards, per Gosselin. Bisaccia has been in his position for three years now, so this may just be the identity of Green Bay’s special teams unit until a change is made.
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Maggie Loney is a writer for Cheesehead TV and podcaster for Pack's What She Said. Find her on Bluesky at @MaggieJLoney.
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Comments (25)
Cheezehead72
October 25, 2024 at 06:44 am
This is an easy pick. The Packers will cover the spread. This is a game where the Packers should be able to try new things to see if they might want to use them in the future.
T7Steve
October 25, 2024 at 07:10 am
"That’s why interceptions are such a challenging metric when it comes to a quarterback’s success."
If the turnover costs the game, it counts against the player. Love is tied with Mahomes in interceptions after missing two games. He sits at 3-2 and Mahomes is undefeated. That's how turnovers count or not.
What's good is that Love will go on a roll now that he's getting dialed in after his injury. Sitting at 5-2 the Packers are way ahead of last season. If the O-line can help him find another second or so, he'll be cutting up this league. Not all teams are going to have the two-headed monsters on the D-line like Houston.
The Packers just need to take care of business and not let the bottom dwelling teams stay in the games. They seem to always compete with the good teams.
Remember, ALL GAS NO BREAKS! GPG!
NickPerry
October 25, 2024 at 07:15 am
This is the epitome of a trap game for our Packers. They just beat a really good Texans team with a walk off FG and after the Jags they have the Lions. Hopefully the Packers will be dialed in and focused with the task at hand...Whooping up on the Jags.
Christian Watson is DUE for a game. He has ONLY 9 receptions which I don't understand. Getting Watson involved should be something the Packers should be trying harder to do. Hey, I get it, there's only so many balls to go around but some of them need to start finding Watson.
GregC
October 25, 2024 at 07:21 am
Couldn't agree more. Watson needs to break out. This could be the week it happens.
Cheezehead72
October 25, 2024 at 07:40 am
There are no trap games in the NFL. These players know that they can be beaten by any team.
HawkPacker
October 25, 2024 at 10:52 am
I agree Nick. Based on how the rest of the NFC North teams are doing, we cannot afford to lose this game.
We need to win this game and then next is Detroit!
Coldworld
October 25, 2024 at 09:00 am
The Jags now healthy offense is a lot better than the standings suggest. Bigsby has been a handful, but getting Engram back at TE had unlocked the rest, along with Thomas Jr who is a big Watson type with quick feet to elude often the catch.
It’s their D that is the problem. They don’t have a lot of talent outside of their rush which, Travon Walker aside, has probably underperformed based on prior seasons.
We should be able to score against this team through the air and in the ground. Defensively, stop the run and find as solution to Engram and that should be enough to allow us to outscore them. Get them having to strengthen the box through the run and I think we are in a great position. That should also help prevent them getting in rhythm offensively.
porupack
October 25, 2024 at 09:32 am
Another data point coming up....to settle the debate for one more week; is GB defense really good, or was it simply playing against teams that were bad (or were short key offensive players from injury.) The indications are good, but see if they can stop TLawrence and their desperation mode of attack. I thing Hafley, MLF and the consultant will have the team ready. A comfortable victory after the first two possessions.
SicSemperTyrannis
October 25, 2024 at 11:09 pm
We can HOPE! I certainly do care about "style points" in this game; if the team has to struggle to win the win still counts every bit as much, but it doesn't bode well for how they might fare against stiffer competition.
jont
October 26, 2024 at 07:17 pm
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Leatherhead
October 25, 2024 at 09:33 am
So.......Jacksonville is one of the better teams at stuffing the run, but they're one of the worst scoring defenses. How is that possible.??? Oh, never mind,I just remembered: It's a passing league, and their pass defense is one of the worst in the league, and that's why teams are scoring points on them. But hey,....they're stuffing the run.
The Packers should be able to score on Jacksonville without doing a bunch of high-risk stuff. Just run the plays and protect the ball and we'll hit 30.
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Also, I'd like to thank the Rams for beating Minnesota 30-20. They are now 5-2, just like us, and when we win Sunday, we'll be 1/2 game ahead of them, and probably 1/2 game behind 5-1 Detroit, who we play next week. It is within the realm of possibility that we'll be 7-2 and in first place at the bye. I think most of us should be happy about that.
Bitternotsour
October 25, 2024 at 10:42 am
chickens, hatching, all that.
Leatherhead
October 25, 2024 at 12:31 pm
I prefer to see it as fulfillment of prophecy. When we lost to Minnesota, I looked at the next four games and saw a good chance at a win for all of them, setting up the face-to-face with the Lions at Lambeau. The winner of that game should be ahead in the division halfway through the season.
Even though Minnesota has lost two in a row....and their best offensive lineman....this is not the perennial Viking faceplant. That'll be later, and funnier.
From 2-2 to 7-2 with a bye so we can rest up before we beat the Bears. That's a pretty good position to be in.
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I guess that's why Jacksonville is a trap game. Focusing on the Jags, we should pound these guys if we show up and take care of business.
Untylu1968
October 25, 2024 at 12:38 pm
It looks like a couple pecker heads wouldn't be happy with that! I agree with all you've stated and appreciate your optimism!🍻
ricky
October 25, 2024 at 09:54 am
This is the sort of game that makes me more nervous than a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. The Packers next play the Lions, and just might be a bit more confident than they should be. Lawrence has improved as the season has gone on, the Packers run defense is still suspect, and if the defense is forced to stay on the field, getting more and more sapped by a lot of running plays on long drives, this could be a much closer than some expect. Is this the proverbial "trap game"? I dislike the title, but the Packers are not able to take anyone lightly, ever. That can only lead to disappointment and regrets of what could have been.
HawkPacker
October 25, 2024 at 10:56 am
"The Packers next play the Bears"
I believe they play the Lions next!
Bitternotsour
October 25, 2024 at 11:02 am
tough to tell the difference, their fans are both known to wear bags over their heads.
Leatherhead
October 25, 2024 at 12:33 pm
If the Bears were attacking from one side, and the Lions were attacking from the other, who would you fight first?
The Lions, because you take care of business before pleasure.
ricky
October 26, 2024 at 09:38 am
Fixed it. Thanks for the catch.
Cheddarhed
October 25, 2024 at 10:41 am
McManus kicked the FG not once but twice
JugGirard
October 25, 2024 at 03:43 pm
Good analysis by Maggie as usual.
At first glance one would think the 5-2 Packers should easily beat the 2-5 Jaguars.
But the 5 win and 2 loss Packers record is only 3 wins and 2 losses with Jordan.
And who have the 5 Packers wins come against? The then 0-2 Colts (now 4-3) , Titans 0-2 (now 1-5), Rams 1-3 (now 3-4), 2-3 Cardinals (now 3-4) and 5-1 Texans (now 5-2). With the exception of maybe the Texans, the Packers have beaten no top tier teams or beaten teams with key players out to injury.
And of the 3 wins with Jordan as starter 2 of those wins (Rams and Texans) could have easily been losses if the Packers defense and special teams did not carry Jordan and make up for Jordan’s bone headed interceptions, poor fundamentals and lack of situational awareness (defensive formation, time, timeouts, down and distance, etc.).
Also, the win over the Rams was when the Rams were without both star receivers Kupp and Nacua. Thank goodness because we may need the win over the Rams in tie breaking scenarios.
I expect Jordan to throw 4 touchdown passes and 0 interceptions this week against Jacksonville, but then I expected about the same last week against the Texans.
Jacksonville’s defense is dead last of 32 NFL teams in number of touchdown passes allowed with 16 and % of touchdowns allowed per pass attempt, 6.3%
Jacksonville’s defense is also dead last of 32 NFL teams in intercepting passes – only 1 interception through 7 games – and dead last of 32 NFL teams in interception % per pass attempt with 0.4%.
Jacksonville’s defense is also dead last in passer rating allowed with 113.7%
Jacksonville’s defense is 25th in sack percentage with 5.9%.
ONE WOULD EXPECT EVEN THE AVERAGE STARTING NFL QUARTERBACK TO HAVE A FIELD DAY AGAINST JACKSONVILLE.
But last week, I also expected Jordan to have a 3 or 4 passing Touchdown day - as the Texans came into last Sunday’s game 31st of 32 NFL teams in terms of passing touchdowns surrendered - 12 TD Passes - and 29th of 32 teams in Touchdown passes surrendered per pass attempt - 6.7 per pass attempt
Additionally, Texans were without 4 defensive starters - linebacker, Azeez Al-Shaair, cornerback Kamari Lassiter, linebacker, Henry To'oTo'o, safety Jimmy Ward
Jordan got 2 touchdown passes, and would have been just 1, but Kraft - as these terrific Packer receivers do all the time - caught a ball that was uncatchable by an average NFL receiver.
Really thought though given the Texans 4 missing starters – including the corner and safety - the Packers would make it through Sunday without Jordan throwing any interceptions.
And even with these starters healthy the Texans were intercepting only 2.8 of every 100 pass attempts coming into yesterday's game.
But Jordan just throws balls up for grabs like a gambler rolling the dice – we had not only the 2 interceptions – which after watching All 22 were clearly both on Jordan – but several other balls that could have and should have been intercepted including 3 passes on the last drive – those 3 – especially the first – could have been very easily intercepted and then what would people be saying? 4 of the 5 throws that were completed on the last drive that put the Packers into field goal range on that last drive were throws that any NFL backup or 3rd string QB could have made on target without forcing the receiver to make unnecessarily body movements and effort – a franchise QB makes those throws without forcing extra effort from the receiver. The 5th completion to Doubs was to Doubs when Doubs had no separation at the time Jordan delivered the ball and should have been called a fumble with the ball turned over to the Texans.
All that said, hoping for the best in Jacksonville.
Barring more Jordan interceptions and a quick 2 score lead for the Jaguars and the Green Bay defense thus wearing down and forced to stop the run, Packers 38 Jaguars 20.
JugGirard
October 25, 2024 at 03:54 pm
Forgot to mention penalties.
Nice to see the Packers get a win last week against the Texans without the benefit of the refs.
Coming into the game 2 weeks ago at Lambeau the Cardinals were the least penalized team in the NFL. The Cardinals had the fewest penalties called against them through the 1st 5 games of the NFL season - just 19.
Then on Sunday against the Packers in Green Bay the Cardinals had 13 penalties called against them - almost as many that were called against the Cardinals the entire season!! And several of the penalties against the Cardinals were very questionable.
Check it out - # of Penalties for the Packers 1st 7 games and most penalized team each week:
Packers 10 for 71 Eagles 7 for 57 in Brazil
Week 1 most penalties Dallas and Cleveland 11 each
Colts 3 for 20 at Packers 6 for 50 in Green Bay
Week 2 most penalties Cleveland 13
Green Bay 10 for 75 at Titans 2 for 15 in Tennessee (amazing the Packers overcame the refs in this one)
Week 3 most penalties Baltimore 13
Vikings 7 for 55 at Packers 8 for 68 in Green Bay
Week 4 most penalties Jets 13
Packers 6 for 34 at Rams 5 for 30 in Los Angeles
Week 5 most penalties New England 12
Cardinals 13 for 100 at Packers 5 for 40 in Green Bay
Week 6 most penalties. Arizona 13 (2nd was Tampa Bay with 12)
Packers 8 Texans 5 in Green Bay
Week 7 most penalties – Cleveland and Las Vegas 10 each
So in Jacksonville, with playoff hopes basically on the line for the Jaguars, beyond Jordan I fear the referees.
Gman1976
October 26, 2024 at 11:50 am
The Packers should win this game, but our achilles heal is still our ST unit. If Bisaccia can't turn it around in total this season (especially with our FG snapper & punt return units), he shouldn't be coaching ST next season. FGs & punt returns should not be an adventure everytime they are out there.
Susieq
October 26, 2024 at 04:30 pm
“Love, though, is also tied for the league lead in interceptions with eight, alongside both Patrick Mahomes (six touchdowns) and Gardner Minshew (four touchdowns). While some of those picks were just bad decisions by Love, others weren’t really his fault (like a receiver falling down, for instance). That’s why interceptions are such a challenging metric when it comes to a quarterback’s success. And he’s only had two games this year with multiple picks. His three against the Vikings really skew his overall total.”
8th article or show now in 4 days REDEEMING Jordan.
Jordan better dominate against Jaguars tomorrow and he should as the Jaguars Defense has given up the most passing TDs in the NFL with 16 and have intercepted just 1 pass. If not, how many “talking points” and articles and shows will 1265 Lombardi Avenue distribute to its high priests for publication and airing?
Does someone at 1265 Lombardi Avenue feel that Jordan – and thus Gutekunst – need defending?
I guess so.
Hence more cover and excuses for Jordan.
I guess with this latest article forgiving and making excuses for Jordan’s interceptions we will now have to go back for each of the other 30 starting NFL quarterbacks that have less interceptions than Jordan and evaluate which interceptions we can blame on someone else.
Oh that’s right Josh Allen has no interceptions, so only need to consider 29 starting NFL quarterbacks. And for 4 – Herbert, Fields, Brissett, and Flacco - of the other 29 we only have to look at 1 interception and for 3 – Burrow, Jackson and Daniels - just 2 interceptions.
I mean, who are we fooling? Much rather have Josh Allen (12 TD passes, 0 interceptions), Lamar Jackson (15 TD passes, 2 interceptions), and Joe Burrow (14 TD passes, 2 interceptions) who are not only throwing the TD passes but protecting the ball and as a consequence their teams are either scoring on the ground or through the air on possessions where Jordan is not only NOT scoring but scoring for the other team!!
And those QBs are not creating problems with turnovers and relying on their defenses to bail them out.
Over 5 games, Jordan has led 59 drives – more possessions than average courtesy of the Packer defense creating turnovers - thus far and the Packers have scored on just 24 of those – that is 40.6%, which ranks 14th in the NFL – 14 players make the playoffs. However, interceptions lead to points for the opponent and must be offset.
And Jordan – unlike many of these top tier quarterbacks – is not a dual threat.
Rushing touchdowns:
Fields 5 – 231 yards 6gp
Hurts 4 – 218 yards 6gp
Daniels 4 – 372 yards 7gp
Allen 3 – 179 yards 7gp
Nix 3 – 255 yards 7gp
Mayfield 2 – 158 yards 7gp
Lamar 2 – 455 yards 7gp
Murray 2 – 325 yards 7 gp
Purdy 2 – 154 yards 7 gp
Jordan 29 yards no touchdowns
Other than the section devoted to the forgiveness and redemption of Jordan, the article is fact based and informative – credits to Maggie.
Dick-theBruiser-Afflis
October 26, 2024 at 09:45 pm
“Can the defense still win football games if they don’t generate any turnovers? Well, the answer is yes.”
Not if Jordan is turning the ball over - last week was a RARE 7.5% probable occurrence.
For instance, in 2023 there were 272 regular season games and 13 playoff games.
In 53 of those games there was a turnover advantage of 3 or more and the team with the turnover advantage won 49 of those games – 92.5% of the time.
In 57 of those games there was a turnover advantage of 2 and the team with the turnover advantage of 2 won 48 of those games – 84.2% of the time.
In 113 of those games there was a turnover advantage of only 1 and the team with the turnover advantage of 1 won 69 of those games – 61.1% of the time.