Free Agency and the Predictably Unpredictable Packers

We should have seen what wasn't coming.

There’s just no way to predict what the Green Bay Packers are going to do in free agency in any given off-season. Except that there is.

With the memories of a 2024 offseason that yielded bruising running back Josh Jacobs and All-Pro safety Xavier McKinney still fresh, Packers fans rolled into Monday convinced that General Manager Brian Gutekunst, armed with more available cap space than in recent memory, would bestow us with untold riches. Many felt strongly the Packers would go after edge rushers Myles Garrett (retained by Cleveland), Maxx Crosby (retained by the Raiders) or Harold Landry (snatched up by the Patriots). Not even Khalil Mack got a decent sniff, so he remains a Charger.

The Packers’ roster needs were obvious. As such, it seemed a no-brainer that, to help fill a chasm left by the Christian Watson injury, a premier deep-threat wide receiver like DK Metcalf (re-signed by the Seahawks), or a true No. 1 receiver like Packers legend Davante Adams (he jetted off to the West Coast to be a Ram). Heck, Packers fans probably would have settled for a reunion with Marquez Valdez-Scantling, but he’s now going to be lining up opposite Metcalf in Seattle.

How it would play out seemed so obvious and predictable.

So, what did Gutekunst do as soon as free agency opened on Monday? He signed a guard. A really big guard, that being former 49er Aaron Banks. He followed that up with another solid free agent acquisition in former Raiders cornerback Nate Hobbs, which did address a roster need and brings needed depth to the defensive backfield.

But hey, the talented and competitive Houston Texans signed a whopping seven new free agents to add to their roster. Meanwhile the Jacksonville Jaguars signed nine. So, what gives? Why didn't the Packers sign more? And who could have predicted that Gutey would ignore pass rushers and wide receivers altogether?

What gives is precisely what’s predictable: The Packers always have a plan. And Gutekunst is hellbent on sticking with that plan rather than overpay for someone else’s veteran. What that exact plan is, fans are never privy to. All we can do is wait. And trust.

And hope.

But the truth is that anyone could have predicted that fans’ free agency predictions and wishes would be dead wrong. Did we ever REALLY think the Packers were going to trade for DK Metcalf? I mean, really? It never seemed realistic, because it just never seemed to fit the legendary Packer Way.

And that’s exactly why we should stop perseverating on whether the front office will trade for Cincinnati Bengals edge rusher Trey Hendrickson. No chance is Gutekunst going to part with the kind of draft capital Cincinnati apparently is asking for, a price that The Athletic writer Dianna Russini said GMs around the NFL deem as “ridiculous.”

Let’s just be glad we got Brad McManus back, shall we? That’s a signing all Packers fans should be crediting Gutekunst with, rather than complaining about who he DIDN’T sign.

Wait. Isn’t Amari Cooper still available? And Cooper Kupp? Hmmm. (Naaah.)

 

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Kevin Gibson is a professional writer and author based in Louisville, Ky. He's also a former sports writer who covered high school, college and professional sports, a Packers shareholder and a fan since 1975. Even John Hadl couldn't break him. Follow him on Twitter: @kgramone

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T7Steve's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:16 am

"Nate Hobbs" is going to surprise us. Look how Gute poached Rasual Douglas off a practice squad. He couldn't even make a team's 53. He's been a starter in the NFL ever since.

I didn't know DK Metcalf ended back in Seattle. Didn't his trade formalize with the Steelers?

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:04 am

Same question!
Or maybe this was written prior to the trade.

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TOMMY'63's picture

March 14, 2025 at 01:11 pm

According to various nfl sports journalists, say that the good art payed to much and could have done better, on the report cards they give the good art A C-. ONLY oppions

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dblbogey's picture

March 14, 2025 at 02:39 pm

I rarely question Gute, he's missed on picks, but seems to do better than most - but it sure seems we could have done more with the $57 million he spent on our new guard. That's top 10 guard money for a guy who hasn't ever been a top 10 guard. Maybe his strong points are better suited for the Packers inside zone blocking scheme. Maybe he and Jenkins will open up bigger holes for Jacobs. I hope he turns into a strong addition, because Gute sure paid a lot for him.

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

March 14, 2025 at 04:09 pm

You mean 77 mil with 21 mil guaranteed? Rich Brazil has an article that shows how poorly Banks did without an all pro left tackle beside him. When Williams went down so did Banks' game. He will prove to be another overpay by Gutekunst. Hobbs is, in all likelihood, a slot corner. He was played on the outside in 2022 and and moved back to slot for 23 an 24. I don't have any stats, but if his first season (2021) was the best of his career, he'll prove to be an overpaid slot corner.

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cdoemel's picture

March 15, 2025 at 12:46 am

They won’t ever pay these guys the amount of money you’ve seen. They’re front loaded with bonuses and back loaded with team options. Hopefully they earn their bonuses.

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March 14, 2025 at 06:38 am

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:27 am

Buck(le) you.

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HarryHodag's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:39 am

Here's another unpredictable: Jaire Alexander(as of Friday 3-14) is still on the team. Could it be that the Packers will retain him? The folks covering the Packers have been drumming about Jaire's release yet nothing happened. They don't have to wait until June 1 to make the post-June 1 designation.

Could it be they were all wrong and he sticks?

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:18 am

I seems the Packers are fine for now holding Alexander under his contract. They have had no offers to trade him (obviously no team wants to hire one of the most expensive NFL CBs who only plays part time), no reason to cut him urgently, plenty of time to wait for him to reasonably discuss a restructured K.

By July, Alexander the Occasional may in interested in exploring a heavy incentivized K that will pay him as much or even a bit more than his current deal WHEN HE PLAYS.

If he remains intransigent that he is actually worth all that pay for part time work, the Packers can always cut him in late July.

Alexander will probably realize by then he will only attract a new deal from another team FAR below what the Packers would pay him on a reworked, heavy incentivized deal.

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T7Steve's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:53 am

Can they do a release post June 1st thing and then re-sign him to that heavily incentivized contract you're talking about, so that they won't have to pay roster and workout bonuses? Other teams especially in the North might be waiting for then to jump, just to piss off the Packers.

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Coldworld's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:24 am

Release him and he’s a FA. You just lose control. If he’s willing to redo his contract teams will do that without relinquishing control unless forced to dodge cap ceilings. That’s not the case here.

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

March 14, 2025 at 04:15 pm

The only bonus for Alexander in 2025 is a $700,000 workout bonus. That means they can string it out till the end of training camp. I don't see that happening, but only the Gutekunst knows.

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packerbackerjim's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:40 am

Until it’s worth trading or cutting Jaire, I expect Gute to keep him. I don’t think Jaire wants to go into free agency next year with another unproductive year on his resume.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 14, 2025 at 04:03 pm

I think that it's 50-50 on whether JA stays or goes - which I base on the projected availabilty of both JA and Hobbs. In the last 2 seasons - JA played only 7 games in each. Meanwhile Hobbs played 13 games in '23 and 11 games in '24. So availability has also been an issue with him. That being so - assuming a full season of availabity in '25 - for either one of them is improbable. However, if combined - the CB position could be manned by one or the other for the entire season. Then retaining JA could make sense. Of course this is predicated on both not being injured at the same time. Alternatively, should both be healthy and available at the same time - that could be tremendous for the D. Nor would keeping JA preclude Gutekunst from drafting a CB in April. Except they now may do it in a later round - offering the possibility of a BPA as an earlier pick.

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NickPerry's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:42 am

"The Packers always have a plan. And Gutekunst is hellbent on sticking with that plan rather than overpay for someone else’s veteran. What that exact plan is, fans are never privy to. All we can do is wait. And trust."

SO...Gutey is hellbent on sticking with a plan and NEVER overpays?

Ummm... Sorry bud, that's EXACTLY what he did with Banks and Hobbs. Time will tell, maybe the two of them become All-Pros with the Packers, but I'm NOT holding my breath.

Sorry, I hate being negative and people who know me here know I'm a bit of a homer. But after 8 seasons with Gute, that "Trust" you spoke of is getting harder and harder. Downvote all you want but there's a REAL possibility this Packers team finishes 4th in the NFC North this season.

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T7Steve's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:55 am

You are a Debbie Downer today. That's ok though. There's nowhere else but up, for you.

Did you see what money is guaranteed for these new FA acquisitions? They'll probably earn it all if they turn into All Pros. Then it will be worth every penny.

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

March 14, 2025 at 04:21 pm

All pro ALL PRO? We're talking likely to be benched after the second game if Banks starts at all. Hobbs may or may not start at slot corner but will be benched after the second game if he starts on the outside. These two signings were totally unwarranted.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:51 pm

"We're talking likely to be benched after the second game if Banks starts at all."

What a foolish thing to say.

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stockholder's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:05 am

Your not being negative. It is what it is.
Gute always over-pays.
And then he cuts.
And if he wasn't so good in free-agency.
The Packers would have tanked years ago.

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Turophile's picture

March 15, 2025 at 06:04 am

Gute always overpays........ Hmm. I think it is more likely that you are completely out of touch with what the market value is for players, these days.

You need to understand that to get any player in free agency where there is competition for their services, you must pay more than any other team. BECAUSE you paid more than any other team you can always spin that as an overpay, if you want.

The only time you won't be complaining about the cost is when a player plays like a demon after being acquired (see Xavier McKinney and Josh Jacobs as recent examples)..........and that appreciation only comes during a season, not when they were picked up.

The bottom line is (as Mike Wahle said) why do you care so much about the money ? It isn't your money, after all.

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stockholder's picture

March 15, 2025 at 07:12 am

I can agree with you on Free Agency.
(per other teams)
But I won't agree on market value,
especially when it comes to resigning his own.

Throwing out money to "SOON",
has led to hard ball.-

Most complained about Rodgers contract,
Bahk, Graham, etc.
Causing a release of a popular player.

Over-payment! And Lack of production.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 15, 2025 at 12:12 pm

In other words, don't let this guy near your Portfolio--Check.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:57 am

Well Nick, the term "overpay" in the NFL right now is not nearly as descriptive as it was just 5 years ago.

Shoot, in the last 10 years the cap has doubled. It jumped another $24 M this year alone.

What you call "overpay" is closer to market price. As long as the Packers have a strong balance sheet (they do!), they have the luxury to spend up to the last $ on their cap...unlike other team owners with profit motives tugging at their desires.

I view the Packers' cap as almost Monopoly money for them. The Packers finances, especially their balance sheet has been expertly managed by Murphy...closely assisted by Policy the last 13 years.

They don't HAVE to spend their cap...but they seem to prioritize players they believe have upside and will FIT the team needs looking ahead. Then they go get their guy. And they won't throw cap at highly decorated, expensive vets who don't. And they do, for the most part develop creative deals, many with exit ramps.

My concern for 2025 is not the players...it is the coaching...the HC and the O Staff.

Not saying they are failing...but seem to be peaking and getting stale. Very few coaching upgrades on that side of the ball, or STs either. (In fact Bicassia got another extension and a raise!). Matt is a good guy but when it comes to personnel decisions he gets feet of clay...is timid. Those decisions aren't fun but incredibly important for a leader, a HC.

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dobber's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:43 am

"My concern for 2025 is not the players...it is the coaching...the HC and the O Staff."

I was actually kinda hoping Stenavich would be offered a play-calling OC job, just to move some of the staff around. I think it's about time for a different voice in the ear of LaF in game planning and play calling.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 14, 2025 at 12:32 pm

"I view the Packers' cap as almost Monopoly money for them." You're right there LP. As monopoly money is a type of play money used in the board game - the salary cap is the play currency in the game of NFL football - with all Teams abiding by the same set of rules.

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

March 14, 2025 at 04:25 pm

Overpay is when you give out, supposedly, market value for substandard play. Banks and Hobbs are the very definition of substandard play.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:30 am

He over pays his own players. No need to run the ledger up for the free agents. A couple guys here and there to fill the whiff voids.

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Guam's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:51 am

I initially thought Banks got overpaid too, but then I saw what teams were paying other guys. Former Dallas edge Demarcus Lawrence got $14MM AAV on a three year deal and he has averaged about 4.5 sacks a year over his six year career. Enagbare had 4.5 sacks last year and Cox had 4 sacks while playing only half a year. Hmmm..... Garrett's revised contract is reportedly paying him QB money - $40MM a year! Holy Crap!! I now no longer believe Hobbs and Banks are overpaid vis a vis the rest of the NFL.

I do believe the entire NFL is now overpaid. A buddy has four tickets on the 35 yard line at Lambeau and the Packers raised the price of his tickets so that each game will cost him about $800 not including parking, food or the $15 beer. This is getting ridiculous and I see no end in sight. The players are getting paid in generational wealth and the average fan just keeps digging deeper into their pockets. How much longer is this sustainable??

Apologies for the digression from Packer football, but the current pay scale is getting out of hand.

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Coldworld's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:23 am

Always after a cap hike. The league expects more hikes over the next couple of years too, so agents were licking their chops going in to this off season and teams were biting well before the Packers.

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Coldworld's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:18 am

Hobbs’ contract seems pretty reasonable once one sees the structure. He’s a good slot CB who should be a good fit outside in the coverages Hafley plays—better than in the Vegas systems of late.

Banks’ seems to be paying for a fit with identified needs and a belief he’s yet to hit his peak. Whenever one thinks one needs a very specific set of qualities, the supply shrinks and there is a good chance one overpays the general market. I suspect that’s what happened here. Interestingly, Herman appears to agree on both motives in his review of the signing on his podcast here today.

The big test for Gute as far as I concerned is how he approaches the DL. If we appear to have been complacent with the types and talent we have, then I think there’s going to be a legitimate reason to wonder if he’s part of the problem at the conceptual level.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:58 am

I was not enamored with the Van Ness selection. He was a bull rusher at Iowa and bull rusher he remains. I have hope Covington can finally build his toolbox. His size and speed and strength is impressive...but in the NFL bull rushers get quickly neutralized.

Covington needs to unlock Van Ness and help take Wyatt to the next step up (I believe he can be very good if he avoids injury!).

Regardless, I will be shocked if Gutey does not take a DL (hopefully DT, but a big fast DE is fine) early and possibly another late. Not doing so will be shortchanging what Hafley and LaFleur are creating for their Defense.

The Defense could be a nasty, physical, dominating bunch!

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GreenAndGold_1963's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:16 pm

He is the only problem

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:03 pm

I don't think it's hard to see Gutey watching the film of running game and realizing Jacobs was making a lot of his gains on his own. Banks pushes piles and plays with some aggression. I'd be curious to know whether that was all his decision or if the coaches were in on that decision. They were running more gap and power plays last year so maybe they realized they weren't really equipped to run that without more aggressive players.

I think they could've have reached the same place by drafting an aggressive center last year and leaving Jenkins at LG but at least it's been reached. I do disagree with Herman as far as Jenkins not playing with some nasty, he seems to get under defenders skin pretty often, maybe not as much as when he was younger but it's still noticeable.

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Packerpasty's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:58 am

He overpaid for two guys who are rather very average players...and none of the "talking head experts" on many of the football blogs and websites think the Packers did much of anything to make the team any better...but why should management do that when Titletown is always busy, the pro shop is always busy, training camp is packed with spectators every year and the stands are always full....why go crazy when people seem content with a winning season and making the playoffs...even if they dont make the playoffs the stands will still be full next year...

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GreenAndGold_1963's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:17 pm

Absolutely correct.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

March 14, 2025 at 06:58 am

after 7yrs we can say:
1. he is not good at picking in the 1st round
2. he often needs mutliple picks on the same position to find a good answer
3. he is a very bad communicator inside (Rodgers debacle in 2020, the time he released a player on his birthday..)
4. he often panics (Rodgers contract was a panic move)
5. he is fine if not good at picking good but not great players, typically middle late rounds players
6. he is fine if not good at picking underrated players (Rasul Nixon, Campbell)
But the big question is: how much come from his own strategy and how much he is a yes-man?
Love pick...was on him or he was told to pick a QB in 2020 and he just said yes?
My opinion is he is not an NFL caliber GM, he has too many issues, the main one being a bad communicator.
He can be a very good scout both for draft and for selecting underrated players off of practice squads or FA or low snaps players, se he may be productive in NFL organizations but he needs a real visionary GM on top

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:07 am

Can’t argue with most of your points
But
Not sure the 12 re-signing was entirely a Gute move.
And
MAYBE Gute just doesn’t know how to FaceTime.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:27 am

that move is a question mark. some insiders wrote it was murphy who panicked or may be murphy and lafleur

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:45 am

For sure. Definitely some unknown there. Might never really find out.

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Coldworld's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:22 am

“We are not idiots.” Mark Murphy

A year and 40+ million later …

“I think it’s trying to find what he wants and what we want. Hopefully we can find a win-win situation.” Mark Murphy.

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Boneman's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:16 am

Sure we could be like the Bears and fire coaches and GM's whenever they screw up. One thing seems certain, every GM screws up when you look at their history. Before we replace Gute we better have someone better in mind. Looking around NFL it would be hard to do better...

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the_gavia_pass's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:29 am

yes it's not easy. But I think Ed Policy has already in mind a new GM

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:50 am

I expect he does: GM Brian Gutekuenst, promoted from GM Player Personnel, replacing retired President and Acting GM Murphy.

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mnbadger's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:13 am

Please add to this statement's credibility by sharing the source of this special insight you have to policy's thoughts.
GPG!

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the_gavia_pass's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:42 am

it's just what I think and also what I would do.
I would like to have MY GM.
I would keep the actual GM only in case he is a proven great one but at the monent it's not the case with gutey.
If I would be the new eagles president I would keep Roseman, for example

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:15 am

Oh, OK...so you don't know what you are talking about, then. Just an invented narrative.

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Coldworld's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:19 am

I’d like a GM to be the final authority on all football matters again. That is currently Murphy. That’s not to laud Gute but because there should be one vision and thus accountability and separate oversight. Ed Policy is many things, but he’s not a former player, personnel guy or football side administrator. If he’s wise the GM position will be separated from the presidency, both as long as Gute stays and through the terms of his successors.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 15, 2025 at 09:58 am

Borgonzi, Veach's second-in-command, was a candidate, but Tennessee poached him in January to run the Show in Nashville. Another Ivy-League guy.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

March 16, 2025 at 04:46 pm

that is another reason gutey is not the man.
he accepted that crazy murphy organization in which murphy have the final say.
haw can you be a GM if your president has the last word???

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dobber's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:29 am

Say what?

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 14, 2025 at 02:58 pm

The Board would never approve a new GM - given Gutekunst's good (enough) record. Nor would Policy be stupid enough to run that past the Board as his opening move. As stewards of the franchise - stability of the organization is of the utomost importance to the Directors. Firing Gutekunst - without sufficient cause by Policy - could very well get him fired.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

March 17, 2025 at 03:12 am

this board is ruining the packers, it's the main reason murphy was the president for many years. they just think on the business side they are far away from vince lombardi sport ethics.
they forgot lombardi saved the packers from disappearing from professional leagues.

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Oxymoron 3339's picture

March 14, 2025 at 01:40 pm

I agree with you Gavia. Gute is slightly above average as a GM.
Just good enough to not get fired.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:20 pm

You realize that since he became GM, he's one more games than anybody during that period? While simultaneously transitioning from a HOF QB?

I've seen a lot of GMs since Lombardi, and this guy is one of the best. He's a product of the Green Bay system, coming up through the ranks. And the Green Bay system has been the dominant system in this division for 30 years.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:13 pm

"he often needs mutliple(sic)picks on the same position to find a good answer"

This is an excellent way to solve a problem position. I'm surprised more teams don't do it given the odds of finding good players.

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Boneman's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:10 am

Gute's OL FA's have been head scratchers for sure. He seems much better at drafting them (but not in premium rounds?). Remember Byron Bell? Billy Turner? Both players got career paydays from Pack and were among the worst players at their position in NFL. Yet we doggedly stuck with them until forced to get rid of them. I hope Banks doesn't turn out like them but all indicators point to it. In certain area's the Packers have an arrogance with player evaluations that goes against most industry consensus. Very interesting and very well recognized by commentators throughout the country. Overall it seems to work for us but man it can be frustrating. Think Kevin King over TJ Watt and Meyers over Creed Humphrey, Both head scratching moves at the time and colossal misses over time. Still, we always seem to field competitive teams, year after year, so something is working. Let's cross our fingers and hope Banks works out. It's only money.

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Racingdad's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:49 am

Bone. The watt debacle was TT NOT gute the creed miss was rumored to be arod not wanting a left handed center

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GregC's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:18 am

I thought Billy Turner was a pretty good guard for the Packers. Am I wrong about that? It's hard to get an objective assessment of interior O-linemen.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:50 am

I thought Turner was a good guy for us. He played a couple of positions, mostly right guard.

Of your 11 starting positions on offense, you don't want your QB to be your weakest link, or your RB, or your LT......well, reason it on down and you end up with RG being that position. Ron Wolf was known for claiming he could find a RG anywhere. It's not UNimportant, it's just the least important position on offense.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:29 am

What wasn't stated in the article was important context for this Packers FA season: The Team only needed to replace 7 players. By comparison the bares, lions and Ugly Purple all need replacing 17 to 20 players leaving in free agency.

Packers need to be diligent and urgent to find those replacements, but need not be panicked, frantic, or frenzied. They can afford to be prudent and strategic. Hobbs and Banks fit that description.

May have another quality depth FA or two added before the draft. Don't expect any cannonballs into the deep end of the pool, however.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:30 am

When you suit up 45 guys, and then lose 15 of them, that's a lot of holes to fill.

Also, the only starters we lost to FA were Myers and Stokes and Slaton. We;ve already replaced Myers and Stokes with free agents. We'll have to replace Watson, too. But that's a much better position than having to replace 15 guys and some of your coaches.

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GregC's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:23 am

I was hoping Gutekunst would somehow make a splash in free agency, but options were limited. I thought Khalil Mack might be worthwhile, but I was probably in the minority on that one, and he re-signed with the Chargers anyway. Maybe Josh Sweat. He's good but not great. None of the wide receivers seemed like they would be a big help.

Most of the complaining about what didn't happen has been about players who were not even free agents. We got a couple players who should be solid starters, and now I'm looking forward to the draft.

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egbertsouse's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:24 am

I don’t focus on the acquisitions as much as the departures. Free agency is a good time to clear out the dead wood of Gute’s failed draft choices. This year was pretty successful; busts like Myers, Stokes and Dillon are finally gone. I was hoping that McDuffie would also leave town, but you can’t get everything.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:11 am

Every team in the NFL has failed draft choices. Lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth about Gutey's drafts...until one begins to follow another team's draft choices closely.

You ought to hear my Ugly Purple fishing buddies tear their garments over MN draft busts. It is hilarious.

When it comes to human employees, it is never an exact science when marrying talent to performance.

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TOMMY'63's picture

March 14, 2025 at 02:52 pm

Very true ,but gb more so than others! Ist pick love a qb we didn't need,3 years on bench ,sat out of training camp ,blackmailed fo,fo pissed in their pants gave massive extension, shouldn't of happened. Dillon rb 2nd round, could have been taken in later rounds dequara 3rd round hb ,packers journalists called him a phenomenon, a bust probably out the league. Blind trust in the good art? Really? Philly,kc ,have excellent gms, gute learned from tt,what do you expect. Could have much better since he took over,doesn't matter.we ain't going to win shit 4 many years to come. Now with trump and the oligarchs destroying the government. Agencies, departments installing an oligarchi autorian dictatorship aligned with putin,what shall happen with the nfl? Only the rich shall be able to go to the stadiums as spectators! The middle class is becoming the working class ,the working class could never attend matches. I've read here,tickets next season at lambeau, 600-800$.How many can go after trump and his oligarchs destroyed the country?

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TOMMY'63's picture

March 14, 2025 at 03:48 pm

Up with the down votes,many here in murica haven't understood, trump and his oligarchs mates are destroying the country from within. Unfortunately the usa isn't a parliamentary democracy multi party system. Trump is bringing a oligarchy authoritarian dictatorship.after he destroys the country, what shall happen with the nfl? The Middle class is becoming the proletariat clas.who will be able to attend the stadiums? I've read in another post tickets next season at lambeau 600-800bleachers not sure. Do you think its plausible a family can attend matches? As far ad parliamentary democracy like Canada and other western countries as of now after musk and trump disastrous politics. Parliament would have had a vote of confidence, trumps government would have fell with new elections shortly after

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 14, 2025 at 04:21 pm

So T'63 - I think that it's generally understood that neither religion or politics are brought into this forum (with both being minefields for arguments). So we just discuss the GBP and football - which seems to work well for all. Neverthelss I do understand the context of your comment - especially as a Canadian living in Alberta.

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TOMMY'63's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:23 pm

Alberta, it does matter, by next year half of the muricans will be skint and starving mate

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:20 pm

I hear you.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 14, 2025 at 07:20 pm

Holy cow is this next to unreadable. Spend a minute cleaning it up before hitting send.

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11Bravo1p's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:09 pm

The only thing worse than posting an incoherent political rant on a football site, is posting multiple incoherent political rants on a football site.

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mjbrogno's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:56 am

Over and over again desperate teams do desperate things, the Packers do not. Also, keep Jaire and let him play out his contract. If, which in terms is a BIG word, if he stays healthy we know he’s one of the best in the league. I like the two signings on Monday, Go Pack Go!!!

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Guam's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:22 am

The Packers had four needs going into free agency/draft this year - CB, DL, OL and WR. Last year free agency aligned perfectly with the Packers needs and they were able to fill their vacancies at safety and running back with premium players. This year free agency wasn't so kind and there were fewer ideal matches to the Packers needs.

The Packers historically want young, ascending free agent players who match up with their physical specifications for the position. Too many players didn't match up well to the Packer requirements - Khalil Mack was too old, DJ Reed was too short (5'9"), etc. etc. Other players like Metcalf or Hendrickson were too expensive due the combination of draft choices and cap space needed to acquire them.

I think Gute did a decent job of patching two of the four Packer needs while still conserving some cap room for later free agent acquisitions. And he still has the draft to work on the two remaining needs. Not as exciting an offseason as last year, but an acceptable one so far.

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dobber's picture

March 14, 2025 at 09:33 am

"The Packers had four needs going into free agency/draft this year - CB, DL, OL and WR."

...and I think the thing people need to remember is that the start of the league year and first week of FA is only the beginning of a long off-season of player procurement. There will be players who get cut--either before or after the draft--then there's the draft, then there are adjustments made in camp and at final cutdowns.

It doesn't all get fixed in a week in FA. There's a long road to go and only finite resources to make it happen.

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TOMMY'63's picture

March 14, 2025 at 04:07 pm

Yes but the good art doesn't draftwell! Sincerly he has always done FUCK ALL WITH HIS DRAFTS!

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

March 14, 2025 at 10:12 am

As I read our posts, mine included, and we talk about a guy being a bargain for $15 million dollars to play a game all of played, loved as a kid and still love, it blows my mind.

I'm going to ruin my day Monday when I meet with my CPA to finalize my federal and California state income taxes. Imagine how happy I would be if I only got to the one million mark. Oh woe is me, but I must be such a bargain.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:07 am

Sadly, just like the NFL, you're worth what you get paid.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:32 am

Low blow, but I'll give you the thumb.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 15, 2025 at 09:09 am

Most people don't realize the importance of a great agent.

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ricky's picture

March 14, 2025 at 11:36 am

The last thing I want a GM to do is get desperate. They feel the pressure to win, to DO SOMETHING, and therefore start making expensive mistakes that hamper a team for years. Falling into the trap of signing "name players", or giving big paydays to guys who suddenly blossom in their "contract year" is always a bad idea. Just like signing a guy who is a headache to have around, no matter how talented they are.
I prefer the Gutekunst approach. Don't overpay, ignore the pressure, and find players who fit the scheme and seem like they could also fit into the Packers culture. If you can make a "splash signing" or two, like last year at a reasonable cost, go for it. Otherwise, as noted, draft several players at the same position in the draft and hope you strike gold with one, like Cooper last year.

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Couch Cleats's picture

March 14, 2025 at 01:27 pm

WTF? Metcalf is a Steeler now. Twice you referenced him back with the Seahawks in this article. I know it's the offseason, but thanks for mailing it in instead of getting your facts straight. Not bothering to correct this?

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 14, 2025 at 02:39 pm

Being a GM and managing the salary cap while drafting players - is very much like an Investment Manager building a portfolio of the best growth stocks - with a finite amount of funds. It's also about Asset Management (AM)

AM involves "the balancing of (salary cap) costs, opportunities (FA and Draft) and risks (injury and under performance) against the desired performance of assets (players) to achieve an organisation's objectives (Championships)." AM is also a systematic approach that requires intelligence, patience and discipline.

The record shows that the GBP have long been good at AM - both on and off the field. However, because we live now, more than ever, in The Age of Instant Gratification - successful, long-term AM is often being challenged by the clamor for immediate results. Fortunately, in Gutekunst, the Packers have a GM who has successfully balanced both the short and long-term. How he does this job is well beyond my experience and qualifications - as well as (probably) anyone in this forum. So, in the meantime, let's continue to pleasantly chat among ourselves.

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beerandbrats's picture

March 14, 2025 at 05:50 pm

The key to building a better football team is to stock the team with competitors. It's a team sport but everybody on the team has an individual responsibility. Find the guys who hate to lose, even in practice, because winners want to win every rep!

All athletes are competitive but we're looking for the cream that rises to the top!

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GregC's picture

March 14, 2025 at 08:41 pm

Eric Wilson signed with the Vikings. I'm a little sad, as he did a nice job for us. If the McDuffie signing suggested a lack of confidence in Ty'Ron Hopper, letting Wilson go suggests that the team sees a role for Hopper after all. He now moves up to #4 in the pecking order for linebackers--at least for now. They will quite possibly draft a linebacker, but no sooner that the 4th round, and probably 5th or later.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 15, 2025 at 09:12 am

It's the business of football. the green bay way is younger, faster, cheaper. it's hopper's time. let's all hope he shows out.

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CanPackFan's picture

March 15, 2025 at 02:37 pm

I would give Gutes a C minus on this free agency window. So many other teams have picked up what they need, but we get 2 fairly overpriced guys. No pass rushers, no LBs, no WRs. It's almost like Gutes got 2, said he was tired and has gone to sleep since? Where's all the SB urgency he talked about? This feels like another TT season where a SB is just a fantasy dream. Very disappointing so far!

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gsd3's picture

March 16, 2025 at 05:15 am

With the supposed depth of this year's class at DT, they sure are getting snapped up in free agency. If the class is really that good, why are free agents going like hotcakes for top dollar.
Maybe scouting departments around the nfl aren't as enamored with the available choices as the Mel Kipers of the world.

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GBD79boog's picture

March 16, 2025 at 07:53 am

Packers kicker's name is Brandon McManus, not Brad.

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