Curd is the Word: Stay Golden Jordan

After a week of off-field negatives for the Packers' world, it's nice to end on a good note

Who says there can't be football offseason drama that doesn't involve current players, coaches, general managers, or even scouts? Anyone who thinks that surely didn't know about the impact that an attempted rule change, or a documentary released about a legendary player, can have. Players and coaches find themselves answering questions about decisions they had nothing to do with and, in some cases, things that don't impact them. But luckily, for the Packers world, we had the annual Green Bay charity softball game at Fox Cities Stadium to enjoy and raise our spirits a bit. We'll get to that a bit later to help pull us out of what happened earlier in the week in Packerland. But first, to the drama. 

Social media kicked off in the mid-2000s and was a big game-changer for the world. Luckily for me, MySpace didn't catch wind until I was a few months away from graduating high school, and Facebook was still a college socializing site where you were required to have a .edu email address to join. For me, it was a way to meet other people I went to school with to make a few friends, and also a great way to stay in touch with all my friends who went off to different colleges. It hadn't become nearly as toxic an environment as we often see today, with all the other sites joining in as well. As a result, simple things like NFL rule changes, or rule change attempts, suddenly get blown way out of proportion, much like the recent attempt to ban plays like the "Tush Push."

First off, the act of an offensive player aiding the ball carrier by pushing or pulling, or even carrying, was once illegal. This is not new. Packer fans should be well aware of this, as in the most famous play in the team's history, a player is trying to make sure he can't be viewed as aiding the ball carrier. That's right, in the Ice Bowl, during Bart Starr's famous QB sneak to score what would be the game-winning touchdown, running back Chuck Mercein is seen pictured behind Starr with his arms up in the air. Many like to think he's signaling a touchdown in sort of a celebratory action, seeing Starr in the end zone. But when Mercein is asked about this, he states that he has his arms up in the air to show the officials that he isn't pushing Starr into the endzone. If he were doing so, a flag would've been thrown. 

So, the thought that the proposition is an act of weakness is a bit ridiculous, as this action was once illegal, and it wouldn't be far-fetched to make it illegal again. Yes, social media has had a field day with the Packers proposing this. Anyone who's not a Packer fan thinks it's the Packers trying to get back at the Eagles for their loss to them in the playoffs. When actually, it was actually released that the NFL pushed the Packers to propose this change. Of course, the vote failed 22-10, falling short of the required amount of 24 votes to pass by just two. 

I've thoroughly enjoyed the mockery from Eagles fans stating they hope the Eagles run the play 10-straight times on the Packers when they meet on November 10th. That sounds just fine to me. Run a play that only gains a yard or two if it's not stopped 10 times to open the game? The Packers will gladly enjoy holding the Eagles' offense to at least three straight three-and-outs. It's also precious watching Bears and Vikings fans laugh about it when their team voted in favor of the ban as well. Next time, check the score board before you talk, folks.

Coincidentally Packers have had pretty good luck stopping said "Tush Push" in recent history, so, once again, this is all social media driving a proposed rule change way out of proportion. We'll meet on November 10th and see what happens, Philly. 

The Brett Favre Documentary

On May 20th, a documentary was released on Netflix titled "Untold: The Fall of Favre." It covers the rise of Favre, but then hits on a pattern of unchecked behavior, including the famous picture sent to Jenn Sterger during his time with the New York Jets.

I will start this out by saying that I personally have not seen the documentary yet, so I am mainly commenting on what I have seen in the news about it since its release. I haven't been a Netflix subscriber for some time, and I don't think that's changing any time soon. 

Little was known about the incident back when it happened, as the NFL seemingly did a pretty good job of covering it up. It was a scandal, but a scandal that quickly became a joke. Just thinking back to my recollection, I had thought that Favre and Sterger knew each other and were perhaps awkwardly flirty, and Favre took it to an uncomfortable level by sending an unsolicited picture of his privates. We knew it happened, but it went from a serious topic to a punchline and a humorous new Halloween costume using your Favre jersey in no time. The seriousness was not there, it seemed to have been swept under the rug as a lie or "mishap." 

The documentary, however, states that Sterger had never met Favre. But suddenly she began receiving voicemails and emails from who she believed to be Favre making advances on her. She states she never led him on at all or played along, and over time, it led to the picture being sent as another attempt. 

Throughout Favre's career, he was always seen as this simple southern hick, more or less, that somehow, was this insanely great football player. His intelligence of the game seemed to be borderline backyard-level at times, yet he would carve up NFL defenses with ease. You could say it was magical. It's said that in true southern boy fashion, the only person who could keep Favre in line was his father. But when Irv Favre, Brett's father, passed in 2003, the only person in charge of Brett Favre was Brett Favre; his father was no longer there to check him. If I'm being honest, it's not a surprise given Favre's tendency to be a careless loose cannon for all those years, but it's still a disappointment. 

Growing up, Brett Favre was like a superhero to me. My enjoyment of the Packers started during his first season as a starter around 1992-93, when I was only 5-6 years old, and that didn't end until his final game as a Packer in 2008, when I was 20 years old. I'll forever cherish the great memories of his time throwing a football in Green and Gold, but man, his time after the Packers really makes it hard to look at him now with admiration. 

Jordan Love, Matthew Golden, and the Packers Charity Softball Game

Okay, let's end on a lighter note. First off, is Matt LaFleur trying to create a signature look? It seems like we see him in a white or gray hoodie with a black vest over it a lot lately. Perhaps he wants to make sure his fashion choices are out there when the historians look back at his career. Vince Lombardi has his famous shirt and tie with a tan coat and black hat. Matt LaFleur is going to have his gray hoodie and black vest. 

Moving on. The Green Bay charity softball game was this past Friday at Fox Cities Stadium in Grand Chute, WI. This is always a fun event that to many signifies that football season is getting even closer. Donald Driver has been the host of the event for a long time and was in attendance on Friday, but he passed the torch over to Jordan Love last year, who hosted the event for the second time. The game is always a blast for those in attendance to see some of the Packers' current players, even those new to the team, and occasionally, some former players show off their softball skills. 

Perhaps the biggest takeaway, media-wise, from the event was Jordan Love's comments on his newest weapon, first-round receiver Matthew Golden. From the little time they've had together so far, Love states that Golden is a "great dude" and is "excited to see his potential on the football field." Love went on to say, "But just the start we've had, he looks like a stud. He looks like a very polished receiver, I'm excited to see just how far he can take it."

We all know that this is the first time since 2002 that the Packers have chosen a wide receiver in the first round. It's something that's been drilled into our brains for the last five years. But it's not just that, this is the first time in it seems like ages that the Packers' first-round pick hasn't come with an asterisk saying "could use a year or two to develop." Matthew Golden isn't expected to be WR1 right off the bat, but he's expected to contribute to the Packers' offense from day 1. Seeing this type of blessing from Jordan Love even before training camp raises the excitement level that much higher. 

I can't lie, it's refreshing to see your starting quarterback speaking highly of a rookie so soon instead of spending all of camp and possibly a quarter or more of the season making them "earn their trust."

Yes, that was a little bit of an Aaron Rodgers jab, and I think we've heard enough of him in the media lately that I don't have to get into it. However, I will admit that I enjoyed his little shots at the Bears this past week. Once a Packer, always a Packer, I guess. 

That being said, I think we can all agree that we hope if Jordan Love also has a legendary career, that his time after the Packers doesn't take the odd and regrettable turns that Brett Favre's and Aaron Rodgers' have. 

 

 

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Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz and Bluesky @gmeinholz.bsky.social for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings.

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mrtundra's picture

May 25, 2025 at 08:06 am

"It's also precious watching Bears and Vikings fans laugh about it when their team voted in favor of the ban as well." What's precious about the vikings laughing, is that they were bad at implementing the tush push. One time, they had a small RB/receiver, pushing their QB. I think they lost yardage on that play. I think they are laughing because they don't want people to remember that pitiful attempt, of their trying to fit in.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 25, 2025 at 10:49 am

I don't understand why articles here need to be about Favre and Rodgers when it's obvious both are now hated. I try my best to not talk about what I hate, unless placed in a position to do so. We all know what they did and became, and they have been exiled by many Packer fans into the 'who gives a shit' place, and yet, here we are again infusing them into what many believe the 3rd time is a charm era, the new 'Golden Boy' himself, Jordan Love.

What will become of this love affair, if Love doesn't win an SB over the next 3 years and demands a new deal that makes him the highest or near to, paid QB in the NFL, and the infamous request for the 'hometown' discount is rebuffed because he's Jordan Love, and the fans have bestowed such mentality onto him, for winning nothing, less a few wildcard spots or that other all world defining feat, Division Title. Will he remain a 'Golden Boy' if after 12 years of no SB for huge money and unquestionable adulations?

Perhaps Love will not become another hated version of the two before him, but maybe, just maybe, he hasn't got what they had to be the great version of them either. At the moment, he is the benefactor of being a Packer, and we are not yet the benefactors of him being a Packer, by a long way.

Six seasons in, and all that we have is the bs argument about how his stats compare with Rodgers in whatever manner looked at. Gee, you can certainly hang your hats on that success.

Stop looking in the rearview mirror of those before to prop up the now and future, especially when the now window of the assumed future is still foggy.

Just move on already. I rather read nothing than more of the past bs about those two. They're not our concern anymore. I changed my user name, Tarynfor12, because he left us.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 25, 2025 at 11:19 am

''''What will become of this love affair, if Love doesn't win an SB over the next 3 years'''''

This is the center of the bullseye. It's the grade Gutekunst gets for the course. We acquired Love, developed him, put a team around him, and paid for him. If we don't get to the Promised Land, then I can't give Gutekunst an "A".

That's why I'm against getting rid of players who have already developed , in favor of guys who still have to make all the mistakes the other guys have already made. The window is open now.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 25, 2025 at 12:16 pm

"That's why I'm against getting rid of players who have already developed, in favor of guys who still have to make all the mistakes the other guys have already made. The window is open now".

Mistakes will always happen to veterans and the new guys, though less expected for one, but the value of the veteran can't just be the limited number of mistakes they make, it has to be about their play. Have they reached their ceiling? Do they still fit the scheme?

An open window can feel like a jar with a couple of holes punched in the lid. You get air, but it's a bit stifling. The Packers are in the jar.

As to what grade a GM gets, I couldn't care less. Here's how I grade them
Grade A, won an SB and was in the mix, solidly near yearly.
Grade B, Playoff more than most.
Grade C, makes the playoffs, lowest seed but can't get pass the 1st rd.
Grade D, everyone else and the reasons don't matter, because they couldn't figure out how to get more.

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NickPerry's picture

May 25, 2025 at 10:56 am

"It's also precious watching Bears and Vikings fans laugh about it when their team voted in favor of the ban as well. Next time, check the score board before you talk, folks."

That would require Bears and Vikings fans actually reading something OTHER than a few social media posts from other fans. That just might overload their little brains.

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Brewcity_BearsFan's picture

May 25, 2025 at 11:08 am

Favre didn't start being a POS once he left GB. Packer media covered for him. Similar to how New York media covered for Mantle.

Fans didn't care because he won.

Favre is maybe the greatest character charlatan in sports I can remember.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 25, 2025 at 11:23 am

Mickey Mantle was not a POS.

The greatest character charlatan? That's a pretty deep pond. I'm more comfortable saying that he's the biggest Big Game liability in NFL history, and nobody else is even close.

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Brewcity_BearsFan's picture

May 25, 2025 at 11:42 am

You're right. I was not trying to insinuate that Mantle and Favre are in the same company. Was simply making a comparison as to how local media covered for their off field habits.

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Packers0808's picture

May 25, 2025 at 12:00 pm

No Mantle was a POS for the most part in his private life. He was an alcoholic and not exactly a good family man because of it. Read his life sometime. Not exactly a respectable human.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 25, 2025 at 07:10 pm

Hey....Mantle had a tough childhood. Abuse, Trauma, etc. It's not a surprise that he self-medicated with alcohol. He was not a good family man, but that doesn't make him a POS.

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LeotisHarris's picture

May 25, 2025 at 07:33 pm

If we look from a disease lens (and we know in 2025 that alcoholism is a disease), Mantle had the genetic deck stacked against him from both mother and father. Two of his boys died of alcoholism. Calling him a POS because he had alcoholism is ignorant. Calling out his behavior is valid.

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Packers0808's picture

May 25, 2025 at 11:14 pm

What is ignorant is the person who doesn't understand being an alcoholic is a choice and his actions made him a POS! Why the hell you think he behaved the way he did.

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LeotisHarris's picture

May 26, 2025 at 10:51 am

The American Medical Association classified alcoholism as a disease in 1956. At the time, alcoholism was often viewed as a moral failing or lack of willpower. Seems you're still holding onto the belief.

The AMA further clarified that classification in 1991to include other forms of substance addiction. That's why insurance companies will pay for treatment programs.

Alcoholism is no more a choice than other chronic illnesses like diabetes or hypertension.

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Packers0808's picture

May 26, 2025 at 01:45 pm

Classify all they want, I was a bartender for 28 years and to drink is a choice you make, seen it day in and day out. Tell someone they had enough argue they wanted more. Drinking is not like getting a disease from nature you can't control, drinking you choose to do or not!

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LLCHESTY's picture

May 26, 2025 at 04:19 pm

Looks like you fall on the asshole side of the nature vs nurture argument!

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Packers0808's picture

May 26, 2025 at 06:00 pm

Well you being the asswhole would know!~ Risible.

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LeotisHarris's picture

May 26, 2025 at 08:25 pm

Oh, hold on, wait, you were a bartender? For 28 years? So, you're saying that your anecdotal evidence proves that those with alcoholism choose to drink because they want more when a professional tells them they've had enough? That they continue to *choose* to destroy their lives?

I was giving you credit for being ignorant. Your beliefs regarding this disease are wrong at best, research proves that, and just plain stupid if you choose to continue to hold onto them.

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Packers0808's picture

May 26, 2025 at 08:35 pm

You are as dumb as a rock. End of story! Risible.

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LeotisHarris's picture

May 26, 2025 at 08:53 pm

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Packers0808

May 26, 2025 at 06:00 pm

"Well you being the asswhole would know!~ Risible."

You really should go back and spell asshole correctly in your witty retort to LLCHESTY. Makes a former educator like yourself look, I don't know, dumb?

And, if you're up for learning something, use whatever internet search engine you'd like to learn more about alcoholism. Search "alcoholism disease" and watch the magic happen. It's never too late to learn.

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Packers0808's picture

May 27, 2025 at 06:49 am

W was put there on purpose to indicate the whole thing. Try being innovative once. The rocks are gathering.

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Packers0808's picture

May 27, 2025 at 07:52 am

Look al you want the Medical Association first looks at alcohol use as a CHOICE, that then leads too addiction then becomes a disease!

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Bitternotsour's picture

May 26, 2025 at 10:56 pm

So wait, you're saying drunk people who've been 86'd from a bar don't just quietly pack their things and mosey on down the way? Remarkable.

He's something I think might more accurately reflect on addicts. Addiction is a disease, but that disease does not take away a person's agency. I know a lot of drunks in the program. Addicts too. Sad childhoods notwithstanding, trauma not the defining element in their lives. People do make choices, not in whether they get sick, but whether they claw themselves out.

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Packers0808's picture

May 27, 2025 at 07:20 am

But they make the choice to have to dig themselves out.

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Bitternotsour's picture

May 26, 2025 at 10:44 pm

are we at a point where we use Brett Favre as a measuring stick for whether another athlete qualifies as a weasel? Brett Favre and his throbbing 4 inches of erect manliness (I've seen the photo) was not a good person. I guess it sort of explains why he wore the #4?

I'd assume a similarly douchey athlete would have some small shoes to step into if he aspired to surpass favre's legacy.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 25, 2025 at 11:36 am

A week of off-field negatives? Really? What I read was the re-cycling of an old topic. I know that we are presently in the off-season doldrums - with a scarcity of fresh topics. However if employing a little investigative journalism - Mark Murphy possibly acting as proxy for the NFL Executive in the tush push ruling is more topical.

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GregC's picture

May 25, 2025 at 11:53 am

I'm excited about Matthew Golden too. I was all-in on drafting a WR in the first round, as long as MacMillan, Egbuka, or Golden fell to #23, and I actually thought Golden was a better prospect than Egbuka. So far it looks like Golden will be a good fit both on and off the field.

I have the same amount of interest in the Brett Favre documentary as I did in the recent Aaron Rodgers documentary, which is zero.

One of the many odd things about the tush push is that it was never voted to become part of the game. It was an unintended consequence of an obscure rule change. It never would've won 3/4 of the votes to become a rule, but it takes a 3/4 vote to get rid of it. Maybe next year.

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May 26, 2025 at 02:25 am

I also had no interest in watching the AR show but I did. I came away understanding him a little better and actually enjoyed it .

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iamiz's picture

May 25, 2025 at 07:39 pm

I wouldn't consider Rodgers' til time after the Packers regrettable. He's quirky, to be sure, marches to the beat of his own drum and all that, but that's aight.

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NFLfan's picture

May 26, 2025 at 08:13 am

There are plenty of topics many of the GB sports journalists could cover, but no one touches them.
And, there is little nuance on this site re:Rodgers, little remembrance of his carrying the team, his standard of excellence, etc. I think there are deeper reasons for the hate which are usually rigid and intractable-one of them is his politics.
He was very quiet about who he was for most of his tenure. I would delve significantly and more deeply into the traits of Gutekunst and his impact on the team. I forgot, though--he is off-limits, same as Murphy & most coaches, etc...the actual real stuff.
There is plenty to talk about-

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Ya_tittle's picture

May 27, 2025 at 11:08 am

I watched the documentary and it was great. That selfish jerk ruined that woman's career. And she could have been a twin of his wife. Weird.

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