Cory's Corner: Quarterbacks Have Too Much Power

Quarterbacks know that they have been protected for a long time and now they are abusing that power. 

The quarterback is the most important position in all of sports. That position is the heartbeat for the entire NFL. 

But now, quarterbacks are starting to abuse that power. 

The quarterback slide was meant to keep quarterbacks healthy. The problem is, quarterbacks are starting to play defenses as the fool. The best example of that was Patrick Mahomes on Saturday.

He runs around, turns into a running back by crossing the line of scrimmage and then at the very last second decides to slide. Defensive players don’t have a prayer in that situation. The moment the Texans tried to tackle him, Mahomes hit the deck, prompting a 15-yard penalty. 

Then there’s flopping. I never thought this would become an issue in the NFL, but it’s clear that the Competition Committee needs to get together and talk about this. 

We all know that Mahomes is the Golden Child of the league, taking the mantle from Tom Brady. But I don’t remember Brady ever flopping like Mahomes did this season as he fishes for the flag. 

The pendulum has swung in favor of the offense for far too long. And I get it, the casual fan would rather see a 35-31 game over a 17-10 game anytime. But there is a problem when you sell your soul to the offense — it instantly becomes an expectation.

Anytime a flag is thrown, many automatically assume that it’s on the defense because a flag on the offense would stall a sustained drive. Remember a few years back when the NFL had a point of emphasis on offensive pass interference? I’ve seen so many examples of offensive interference this year that are not only not called, but are largely ignored. 

There must be stricter rules regarding quarterback slides. The moment they get past the line of scrimmage, the slide is no longer an option. They become a running back and should be able to take all the punishment a defense can dish out. 

And if anyone tries to flop to push a penalty on the defense, that should be an automatic 15-yard penalty. Football is a great game that has been filled with amazing moments throughout its history. I don’t have time for people trying to pull a fast one just to get a call. 

And yes, I’ve heard the phrase, “If you’re not cheating you’re not trying.” Well, it’s time for the NFL to grow some teeth and bark back. Quarterbacks know that they can pretty much walk on water and it’s time for the NFL to take the game back. 

The national narrative after the Chiefs advanced to their seventh straight AFC Championship Game was how the officiating was suspect. That’s not what the NFL wants in the playoffs. Obviously, officiating didn’t change the outcome of the game, but when some calls are so egregious, it doesn’t take a curious person to wonder why. 

And you all know me. I despise instant replay. I go into a game knowing that a game will not be 100 percent perfect. That’s the human element. 

The problem comes into focus when players intentionally deceive the refs. That’s a huge issue that needs to stop. 
 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Cheezehead72's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:00 am

I agree that once the QB crosses the line of scrimmage they should be considered a runner and they should be given only the protections of any other runner. The QB has a choice to run or not to run.

I do not like instituting a flop rule. That would require the judgement of the official. I do not care for judgment penalties. I would rather officials to be trained to overlook any flop and not throw the flag. Once players see the flop will be ignored I would hope they would stop doing it.

Yes I would love to see more parity between offensive and defensive penalties. I would love to see less flags all around. Why does the NCAA average 2.2 penalty flags a game and the NFL averages 6.5 and the NCAA players are less experienced? Most of that can be attributed to DPI. The NFL has to learn to let them play.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:30 am

QBs should be treated as a runner as soon as they leave the pocket. If you want to be protected then stay in the pocket.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:35 am

What other position takes advantage of the slide/knee rule as much as the QB? Kick returners take a knee in the end zone and call fair catch. Every now and then a RB breaks into the open field at the end of a game and gives himself up to keep the clock rolling, but if they slid more than on those rare occasions to avoid taking a hit, they wouldn't be in the league ver long. QBs know how important they are to their team's success and they use the rules to protect themselves.

I have no problem with QBs sliding--again, it's a rule that protects ALL ball-carriers.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:52 am

I understand how some fans revel in head injuries. I'm not one of them. From a deeply personal standpoint, I'd rather not see anyone die on a football field for my entertainment.

I want Patrick Mahomes, and Jordan Love and even Jared Goff protected. The league needs to do a better job protecting Lamar.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:26 am

I would argue that Jackson--and Allen, and a few others--need to do a better job of getting down and avoiding that hit. They choose to play more like a RB or WR at times and they take unnecessary contact because defenders know those guys are going to stay up and play for yards (or for the end zone) and they know they might get to take a shot.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 21, 2025 at 10:36 am

when they go down, they deserve to be protected. arguably they allow horrendous hits on Jackson both out of bounds and also when he slides. Allen invites hits, he just doesn't slide. We had a quarterback like that once, he's already showing significant signs of CTE

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Coldworld's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:53 am

I am not with you on your comparatives. The knee in the end zone is not a real one. They aren’t giving themselves up, just signaling dead ball. A RB can be tackled unless he’s clearly down and already touched because he can get back up until then. Theres no fear of a penalty in the same way as with a QB. Indeed one sees players hesitate faced with a QB with ball in hand routinely.

Behind the line protect the QB, but once he crosses it, he’s no longer able to pass, he’s therefore just a back who is running the ball and should be treated that way. If that deters some running, that’s a team and players choice, but I’d rather that than watching defenders give free yards to avoid contact.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:44 am

"A RB can be tackled unless he’s clearly down and already touched because he can get back up until then. Theres no fear of a penalty in the same way as with a QB....he’s therefore just a back who is running the ball and should be treated that way."

Disagree: if any player (TE, RB, WR) clearly slides or takes a knee (dead ball) in the open field and then gets hit on the ground--clearly gives themselves up--that's going to be a penalty every time. Very different from the player who stumbles over the 30 yard line, falls, then makes an effort to get up and continue the play. Hit that guy. Defenders voluntarily give themselves up and slide in the open field on INTs and it's blown dead whether there's contact or not.

"Theres no fear of a penalty in the same way as with a QB."

Why? Because RB and WRs virtually never give themselves up and slide. The word there is "fear" because they know that guy isn't going to take a knee or slide.

A fair catch is voluntarily ending a play on possession of the ball, very similar to taking a knee or a slide: you are signaling the end of a play. When defenders hit that guy, it's going to be a penalty.

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Coldworld's picture

January 21, 2025 at 11:53 am

Have you ever seen a defender avoid contact with a RB in case he slides? Once he’s clearly down you can’t dive at him. Before he is that’s fair game and is treated as such in practice.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:57 am

Yes any player can slide, however, ONLY QBs are treated as fragile. If a RB decides to slide late you will NEVER see a flag thrown. However, if a QB decides to slide late you almost ALWAYS see a flag thrown. Not to mention defenders let up all the time when they get close to a QB running on the field of close to the sideline. The fear of officials throwing a flag causes issues. Russell Wilson used to do this all the time. He would fake slide, see the defender let up, keep going, then slide super late and take a hit for an extra 15 yards. That shouldn't be a flag on the D. Instead if you decide to slide late either A there isn't a flag or B the QB gets flagged for unsporting conduct. Mahomes on the other hand is well known for making it look like he is going out of bounds and sees a defender let up and then stay in bounds and run for an extra 10 yards. He knows that if he is even close to the line and he is hit he will most likely get a flag (see Owens hitting Mahomes IN BOUNDS in 2023 and getting flagged for a late hit). See how this works? These things are happening more and more often now and by more players. The league needs to put an end to this BS or just turn into 7 on 7 and the QBs have red jerseys.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 21, 2025 at 11:06 am

IMO, a QB in the pocket should be protected. No low hits, no shots to the head, no grabbing and slamming the QB to the ground extra forcefully.

However, when he's not in the pocket, or starts running with the ball, then they're a football player. All the Unnecessary Roughness, Personal Foul, leading with the helmet stuff still applies, but they don't deserve any extra protection..

I think having a running QB is a big advantage. I wonder if Philly, Washington, Buffalo or KC would agree?

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T7Steve's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:07 am

That's life as we now know it in the NFL. I actually want Jordan Love protected, just not all those other QBs. HA! QBs are supposed to be the smartest players on the field, so expect them to figure out new ways to stretch and use rules. The flops shouldn't be that hard to regulate, especially when it's a punter or a kicker.

Actually have seen more hits out of bounds go uncalled this playoff season and was wondering about it.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:31 am

You see OL/DL flopping on "late hits" all the time as well.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:31 am

WR have been getting away with flops for years.

The Lions got beat in part because the WAS receivers were able to draw a couple penalties on their handsy DBs that were more than just ticky-tack. When it's your WR doing it, it's a savvy veteran play. When it's against your guys, we want change.

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stockholder's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:13 am

The NFL is under scrutiny for interfering with games now.
We saw the acting jobs with Kickers.
Players are just going to have to make better choices.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:17 am

We need to remember that it's simultaneously a game and an entertainment industry. We aren't to the stage of professional wrestling, yet, and I don't believe it's as scripted as some argue it is.
Things turned badly when the NFL got into bed with organized betting.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 21, 2025 at 12:19 pm

Vegas makes the call on certain reviewed plays...

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egbertsouse's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:17 am

The trouble is the inconsistency with the calls. Mahomes barely gets touched and gets a flag. Goff gets his head torn off and gets nada. In the Chiefs game they called everything. In the Ravens game they called nothing, even when a zebra got knocked down in a fight.

Nothing is ever going to happen with the crap officiating. Roger and his boss, Jerry, don’t care. Crap officiating causes conversation and media hits which they love.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:36 am

"Mahomes barely gets touched and gets a flag. Goff gets his head torn off and gets nada."

In my opinion neither of those should be called. The biggest problem I see isn't the number of flags but consistency. Teams like the Chiefs get the weak flags all the time but then when the same things happens for their opponents all of a sudden the flag doesn't fly. Perfect example was the first game of the season. The Ravens were flagged for the OT lining up in the backfield 4x I believe. However, the Chiefs RT (for whom the emphasis was enacted) got flagged maybe once despite being in the backfield almost every passing play and FAR more obviously than the Ravens. On top of that he would false start all the time by moving 1/2 tick before the snap. THIS is what needs to be fixed is the consistency.

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NickPerry's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:21 am

Sorry, I agree with Cory. The protection the QB has been given is ridiculous. These guys are still FOOTBALL players. Most of them are men over 6 feet tall. Most are over 200 pounds, yet if a fingernail is placed on the head, shoulders, it's a friggen flag.

How many times have we seen a Packers pass rusher (or an opposing teams pass rusher) come off the edge and perhaps their hand or a few fingers glance the QB's helmet and BAMM, out pops the yellow flag for unnecessary roughness, roughing the QB. It's ridiculous.

The NFL is a multi BILLION dollar business. They PRINT money. Are you telling me the NFL can't hire and train NFL officials how to weed out the bullshit? Hell, teach the ones you currently have! At times games have become unwatchable and when Mahomes is involved it's damn right unfair.

Yes, the 35-31 games ARE more exciting to watch...sometimes. But If a team got screwed on one of the drives for a fingernail to the helmet, 15 yards, give me the 17-13 game every time!

Sadly, we all know it's only going to get worse. A few more years and we may be closer to a Pro-Bowl game type game, than a real football game. Wow, could you imagine a 18 week schedule of that kind of crap?

There must be change!

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crayzpackfan's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:59 am

"Sadly, we all know it's only going to get worse. A few more years and we may be closer to a Pro-Bowl game type game, than a real football game. Wow, could you imagine a 18 week schedule of that kind of crap?"

Seriously, if it comes to that, not only will I stop watching football, I will stop watching the Packers. The thought of that terrifies me.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:39 am

"How many times have we seen a Packers pass rusher (or an opposing teams pass rusher) come off the edge and perhaps their hand or a few fingers glance the QB's helmet and BAMM, out pops the yellow flag for unnecessary roughness, roughing the QB. It's ridiculous."

I remember the 2009 playoffs vs Arizona where Cullen Jenkins put his arm up to block a pass to Fitzgerald and Jenkins was pushed in the back and his arm touched Warner's helmet and he was called for roughing the passer. However, on the same play Fitzgerald MAULED Charles Woodson and OPI wasn't called.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:31 am

Blah
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Remember how pissed off so many other coaches were when Aaron Rodgers kept picking off their defensive players trying to get off the field and nabbing free plays for 12 men? Some call it cheating, some call it playing the fringes of the rules, and some call some of these things "innovating".

This is a silly article.
We all know that refs are under direction to protect QBs...why? Because if you take away the slide and you don't keep players away from their knees or from whacking them on the head, the quality of the NFL product goes in the crapper and people like us lose interest or don't watch. Take away the slide and you'll have lots of big money QBs in the concussion protocol...and a late slide is no different from a deke. Defensive players are aware.

ANY player can give themselves up with a slide or a kneel-down, by the way, and they are protected. Learn the rules, Corey.

Every officiating crew is different, and we're now getting crew previews for each game: this crew calls more defensive holding...this crew calls far fewer penalties than others...this crew has called the most personal fouls. It's part of scouting now and every coaching staff knows it. Yes, more consistency would be great--the hip-drop tackle on Dalton Schultz in the Houston-KC game was way more egregious than the hit on Goff, by the way--but there's always going to be variable officiating. Maybe if the officials were full-time employees rather than weekend warriors...hmm, there's an argument none of us have ever heard before (note sarcasm).

Nothing's going to change as long as the money is flowing.

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T7Steve's picture

January 21, 2025 at 07:41 am

"the quality of the NFL product goes in the crapper and people like us lose interest or don't watch"

That's the only part that's even close to me disagreeing, dobber.

The NFL won't lose people like us, no matter what they do. They'll lose the casual fans or the girl that has a crush on a certain player. Remember the girl on here from California that said she was only a Packer fan because of Rodgers? Unless she changed her username, we haven't heard from her since. That kind of fan.

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Cheezehead72's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:24 am

To equate the QB sliding late to get a penalty and snapping the ball quickly to get a penalty is fualty logic. They are not the same. First one is 5 yards and one is 15 yards. One is gaining an advantage of a rule that is in place o protect you and one is not. One is during the play where it is very hard to decide what to do and not the other is committed at the snap. So I do not go for it. Yes any player can give themselves up but the hits of a QB are officiated more stringently. Once the QB decides to run pass the line of scrimmage they are a runner and should be treated the same.

Yes I agree that every crew is different and the officials have a very difficult job that is why less officiating would be better.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:42 am

"Once the QB decides to run pass the line of scrimmage they are a runner and should be treated the same."

We see more QB slides than any other position. If you see one slide from a non-QB in a game, that's something...so what are we really comparing? The vast majority end in no contact or a two-hand touch with a defender. I'd argue most QBs slide with the intention of avoiding contact altogether....they don't control what's coming from the defenders, and most don't want to risk being stretchered off the field.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:47 am

"Once the QB decides to run pass the line of scrimmage they are a runner and should be treated the same."

IMO QBs should only be protected when they are in the pocket. Once you leave the pocket you are a runner. If you want protections then stay in the pocket.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:45 am

If you ask me football from before the initial Payton Manning rule of 2004 (emphasis on illegal contact) was far better than modern football. I understand the not hitting them in the head but that should be reserved for helmet to helmet hits as those can cause concussions. However, your arm making incidental contact to the helmet of the QB shouldn't be considered roughing the passer. When it comes to officiating, every crew is different but that doesn't mean they call things consistently for each team in a game. It was reported that the Chiefs are 7-0 with the crew that worked the Chiefs/Texans game on Saturday. Time after time there were penalties called on the Texans that weren't called on the Chiefs.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 10:22 am

"It was reported that the Chiefs are 7-0 with the crew that worked the Chiefs/Texans game on Saturday. "

The Chiefs lost 2 games this year. Odds are that there was more than one crew that called multiple Chiefs wins.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 04:10 pm

There are at least 16 officiating crews in the NFL. AFAIK you only see the same crew a couple times a year so being 7-0 with that crew means this goes back several seasons with that crew makeup and not just this season. FFS the Chiefs get calls that no one else does and part of it is that you cannot even give Mahomes a dirty look without being called for roughing the passer.

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murf7777's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:55 am

Dobber, kinda hard on good ol’ Corey aren’t you? You must’ve got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning….lol

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:22 am

My cookies were all oatmeal raisin.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 21, 2025 at 10:15 am

An abomination. No wonder you're cranky.

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Packers0808's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:03 am

Here to no fan of replays, but they are here to stay.What I like about HS ball game is played and no second guessing and also moves along!

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:15 am

I watched one of our local HS games last fall that had 9 turnovers in the first half. That one couldn't move along fast enough....

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Cheezehead72's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:26 am

The pro game is much faster and they have the technology to get it right. Get it right. The NCAA game moves faster so the NFL needs to look at what the NCAA is doing.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:29 am

"He runs around, turns into a running back by crossing the line of scrimmage and then at the very last second decides to slide. Defensive players don’t have a prayer in that situation. The moment the Texans tried to tackle him, Mahomes hit the deck, prompting a 15-yard penalty."

This was started by Russell Wilson. I remember how he would start to make it look like he would slide and see the defender let up and then keep going for a few extra yards. Once the defender got to him he would then slide SUPER later to get an extra 15 yard penalty. The league needs to stop this because players abuse this all the time. Not to mention officials are willing to throw flags for late hits that aren't (see Owens hitting Mahomes before Mahomes went out of bounds in 2023). Then you have that QBs are protected on INTs (see Goff INT return on Saturday). I'm glad the refs didn't throw the flag for that (even though according to the rules they should have). If the QB doesn't want to be blocked and take a hard hit after an INT then don't be in the area of the return. Goff was a couple yards away from the returner and was going in to try and push him out before the TD. He took a hard hit and if it was any other player but the QB no one would have cared. However, for some reason QBs are supposed to be treated as if they are thin glass and touching them will result in breaking them. This is crazy and I'm glad the penalty was missed.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 10:47 am

"Goff was a couple yards away from the returner and was going in to try and push him out before the TD. "

I live in a Lions market, and they're pretty unhappy with that hit. He took a hit similar to the hit on Nixon (the defender got into his grill with his helmet) but Goff was also falling awkwardly and the defender chested him up and gave him a solid push. It was marginal. As you say, QBs know they're targets on INT returns and in the turning of the field, it's hard for refs to keep track of them, anyway.

The Lions' defense got eaten for long drive after long drive on Sunday. They had no answer for Washington. It was a feel-good thing.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 21, 2025 at 04:12 pm

Had that been Love taking that hit in that situation I would have been fine with it. If you, as the QB, don't want to take a hit during an INT return then don't get near the ball. The league needs to stop treating QBs as if they are thin pieces of glass that will break if you touch them.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:32 am

The NFL has a major problem. Its not about the QB. Its about the officiating. They are way to inconsistent. Not even from game to game, but in each game they are inconsistent. For example, in the Packers last game, their OL got 3-4? holding calls. Yet, on that 3rd and 1 for the Eagles, when they tried to fake the tush push and throw deep, Evan Williams was absolutely tackled in the backfield and no call.

The major problem is that the game is starting to look rigged with the way these games are officiated. I'm not saying that the games are rigged, but it can start to look that way. Just look at how some of these games are officiated. They are making horrible calls every game. Yes some of this is due to the fact that humans are making calls and its not easy to officiate. But they have the technology to help officials and they are still getting it wrong.

Look at GB's last game alone. The opening kickoff Oren Burks got fined for his hit on Nixon. That confirms that the league said that it should have been flagged for an illegal hit. Refs missed it, which happens but shouldn't. And then that turned it into a fumble and there was a big pile with everyone going after the ball. Eagles came away with the ball. Yet replay clearly showed that Nixon had the ball, had control and was touched down. How they can review that and come away saying it was Eagles ball does not look good for the officials.

There are calls made every game that play a significant part in the outcome. And many that change the momentum of the game. Think of all the timely penalties. When there is a crap penalty called on a 3rd down when a team is stopped, and that team then gets a fresh set of downs and they go down to score. That bad call changed the game significantly. Or the opposite of that. The team gets a first down to be called back by a bad call. Instead of a first down, now its 3rd and long and they don't get it and have to punt.

The NFL has to figure out the officiating, because its getting worse, not better. They have the technology to have someone looking at everything and making sure the right calls are made. Its time they start using it.
And while we are at it. They need to figure out a way to use technology to spot the football. They are pretty good a lot but there are a lot of times they are way off. Its time to improve the game!

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murf7777's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:01 am

RC, officials are human and subject to errors. I don’t believe it is or will be a major problem to the NFL. It’s been this way forever. It’s no different in other sports. Reality, at full speed the human mind cannot make all calls accurately.

What I think has helped is the eye in the sky where they review immediately in NY without much if any interruption to the game. I think in the future you will see more of that and you won’t be seeing Ref’s going to the sidelines for what seems like a 1/2 hour. At least that is my hope.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:25 am

Refs are humans. Humans make errors. It happens. However, with the technology they have they have the ability to make it right/fair/even (whatever you want to call it).

The problem right now is with the NFL and the amount of gambling involved, it can be very influential in the outcomes of games. The only thing the NFL can really control is the way they are officiated. To make sure the game doesn't look rigged they need to find a better way to do it. And again i'm not saying it is rigged. But when you see these horrible calls that Mahommes gets and the other QB doesn't get the same call, it looks like it could be rigged.

They have the technology to make sure the calls are right. There was a game that I'm blanking on right now. I think maybe the Lions game? Where they called a facemask. It looked like it live. I thought it was when the guy got spun around the way he did. The refs thought so too. Thats a hard call to make. However, upon video you can clearly tell it was shoulder pads not facemask. That call should have been overturned. An official in the booth with full access to all the calls could have fixed that in about 15 seconds.

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Coldworld's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:02 am

NFL officiating has been poor for a long time. The Nixon fumble is a classic example of where rules perpetuate error (twice). Then we have officials that can’t be consistent. This, however, is not new. The league consistently refuses to have full time officials and to enforce more homogeneity on them. What can be challenged it reviews is driven more by fears of delay under antiquated technology which no longer need apply, but the NFK doesn’t invest in that sufficiently.

It is damaging the product, but it’s not damaging the ratings and thus probably continues until it does, and that may be never.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:30 am

No this isn't new. And it needs to be fixed for sure.

I still don't get why they won't get full time officials. It has to be all money related, but if they had the officials full time they could train them however they wanted all offseason and during the season to try and create the best officials possible.

I get the idea that they don't want to have an official going to a video board to review it. It can severely disrupt the game flow. Think back to the Musgrave catch against the Bears. The Packers had a ton of momentum and that play was huge. But they ruled it incomplete on the field and then had to challenge it. They eventually get the call right but it took a few minutes and took away the momentum that the offense had.

having an official in the booth could change that significantly. They have the official there to overlook everything and make sure the calls are correct on the field. To me that is the best thing they can do.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:30 am

Last year, for the first time in my life, I saw some officiating as "suspiciously bad". The calls and non-calls....it's turning the game into the NBA. What constitutes roughing seems to be largely in the mind of the official. The Texans got called for roughing Mahomes on a play where they don't even hit him, and it was an impactful call at a critical time.

If a story ever surfaces that the refs and gambling have corrupted the league, it's going to be devastating. But that's exactly the road I think we're on sometimes.

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Coldworld's picture

January 21, 2025 at 11:59 am

Gambling and sports integrity have never coexisted healthily for long.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 21, 2025 at 06:28 pm

Agree LH.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 21, 2025 at 06:26 pm

Exactly how I see it RC—great post.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:42 am

The money flowing into the NFL with the explosion of legal and illegal betting invites corruption. Many "fans" are not invested in a specific team winning every Sunday per se...but are in it for the weekly and seasonal wagers.

Giving refs even more discretion over "judgement" calls opens the door to corruption by them. People in EVERY profession fall prey to bribery.

I do not know what specific monitoring the NFL does on ref integrity after games and the season...but the league does not promote transparency nor trust when they never talk about ref integrity or give grades on accurate...and missed calls.

Recent example was the helmet to helmet fumble causing hit on Nixon to start the game last week that resulted in a fine AND easily should have been a penalty.

For better or worse, I expect AI is going to have an outsized role in officiating in the near term. It may be refs will be doing little more than spotting the ball and blowing whistles to start and end a snap.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 21, 2025 at 08:54 am

The reality TV show that is the NFL must have stars to be successful. The average jersey buyer isn't tuning in to see Creed Humphrey execute a combo block. The stars will always be protected. That doesn't mean QBs can't be made to reconsider their good fortune. I remember Ronnie Lott telling a story of letting up on Warren Moon when he thought Moon was going into a slide, only to have Moon continue to run for a few more yards. As Moon got up, Lott told him if he pulled that shit again, Lott would hurt him. Problem solved.

Stay warm out there .

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Leatherhead's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:25 am

I like that we're protecting the QB, but the QB needs to protect himself by not doing stupid stuff.

The refs really protect Mahomes. Buffalo has already been called for roughing twice and the game doesn't even start for a couple of days yet.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 21, 2025 at 06:30 pm

Yep—right on LH.

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dobber's picture

January 21, 2025 at 10:38 am

We have to ask what we're really arguing here:

Some are talking about quality and consistency of officiating--and I think we're all in favor of that.

Some are implying that QBs are getting treated special because they slide, and they want the protection of giving yourself up taken away. To be honest, I'd argue the rules don't say that and the eye test of watching games when other position players actively give themselves up in the field of play doesn't say that.

Are we really arguing that we WANT running QBs to get hit? As much as I'd like to see some particular QBs take a hit or two, open season on QBs would be bad for the game. I'd argue a "slide fake" is no different than a RB or WR who's running down the sideline and fakes going out of bounds to get a defender to let up (to avoid a late hit), only to eke out a handful of yards by staying in play. That's been going on since the invention of the sideline.

So what do we really want to argue?

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 21, 2025 at 12:45 pm

"So what do we really want to argue?"

I believe clearly defining the point of debate is against everything comment sections stand for. Why do you hate America, dobber?

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crayzpackfan's picture

January 21, 2025 at 02:12 pm

I guess I would be interested in seeing the data of serious injury, concussion mainly between a sliding QB and a QB that just takes his chances staying upright. My eyes sometimes tell me that a late sliding QB seems to be in more danger because the defender has made the commitment, has sent his body in motion to tackle the QB's hips while the QB slides straight into a helmet that is now aimed right at his own head. Maybe sliding should be illegal when there are defenders within a certain number of feet away from the QB? I don't have an answer. But the way it is now isn't providing the protection it is supposed to be while also opening doors for gaming the rules for a serious advantage which is not the purpose of the rule.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 21, 2025 at 01:47 pm

The NFL officiating is “officially” and understandably under severe scrutiny. I firmly believe their integrity is at high risk.
Maybe it’s the $$zillion worth of bets placed each week. And as “Since ‘61” has previously mentioned, NFL is dripping with greed.
The internet is exploding with charges of an overprotected Chief’s team—and I happen to agree. The ref bias is overwhelming imo.
I’m not a Chiefs antagonist, but the evidence can’t be ignored. A minimum of three games the officials bailed-out the Chiefs; - vs Falcons; Bengals; Raiders —the Falcon’s gm was especially nauseating.
And this Mahomes flop — catch me, rape me, hope I stumble, has to end.
And regarding the Chiefs/Texans gm and I were Demeco Ryans—I would have marched my team off the field and initiated a hunger strike against the NFL.
One thing I do know, I don’t want the Chiefs to tie the Packer record of three consecutive championships.
And many so-called experts defending the officiating is very suspect.
Go Packers!!!

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joejetson's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:15 pm

I think ALL penalties should be reviewed. But by the Booth official, not slowing down the game by the ref running over to the little TV set on the sidelines. The clock is already stopped because of the penalty. It shouldn't slow the game down as much that way, most will just be confirmations, completed as the ball is spotted. But the flops and phantom Pass Interferences, Holdings, and retaliation Personal Fouls, would be corrected.

If it turns out it does slow down the game too much, it can be tweaked. But at least it would start the process of correcting the uneven officiating situation.

I think having the calls corrected "off the field" would be less intimidating for the refs if a major penalty is reversed against the home team. You look at a venue like Philadelphia, where the fans are known for their rabid, violent antics, and I could see where refs would fear for their safety in a game changing situation.

I used to like watching the NBA but I can't watch it at all anymore due to the refs. I'd hate to see the NFL continue on that trajectory.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 21, 2025 at 09:44 pm

Good post Joe.
I’m in agreement with you. I’ve posted previously about the criminal element and intimidation of the Philly fans.
The alleged fumble and illegal hit by/on Nixon, MAY have been corrected had a closer inspection by an unseen (booth) official been made.
However, it seems that in some circumstances, they stay with the call no matter how clear the evidence.
The Nixon fumble was clearly recovered by Nixon, but the officials didn’t have the integrity to make the right call.

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