Of course Matt LaFleur should stay. We've finally gotten used to mediocre, just above average and choking football in Green Bay. We've gotten used to poor assistant coaching and bad special teams.

We shouldn't throw that all away and have to adjust to being a winner again.

I can tell by the way you smile, he's rollin back.

I agree that MLF needs to give up play calling and be a HC or just be an OC. I have no confidence that if they make him give up play calling and being the OC that he can hire a good OC and remember he might have to hire an DC and STC. If Hefley goes to another team I believe this might be the best chance to change the whole staff.

Each NFL Franchise is a business entity and the Head Coach is the Chief Operating Officer, LaFleur's "balance sheet" continues to trend in the wrong direction, it;s time for the President and Executive Committee to step up and make a change at the top.

Keep him and give us the update next January. It will be the same story.
Really tired of this “era” It’s embarrassing to be a Packer fan (owner)right now.
Optimism with LeFluer is at -3 on a scale of 1 to 10.

He hired Hafley to oversee D✅ SUCCESS
He promoted Bisaccia to oversee ST & be asst coach❌ EPIC FAIL
He promoted Steno to OC❌ FAIL
Synopsis? He delegated as successful executives should do, focusing on his strength (play calling). He essentially IS paid to oversee one side of the ball, play calling, clock mgmt, and make in-game adjustments, yet he fails at most of those leaving him to be a play-calling cheerleader. Above all, the buck stops with his title to EARN Ws, no matter how, who, what, when, where, why.

I've brought up analysis by paralysis numerous times with Matt. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

There were several great points in the Herman / Wahle podcast, most significantly to me being that Matt is not a draft & develop guy, where Gute is youth movement driven and hence provides a young inexperienced roster that needs to be coached up.

CONCLUSION: a bad marriage...how many times have I brought up Gute / MLF are enemy signs?!?--too many to count☹️

Matt is a classic coordinator who excels in his craft; he's been given ample opportunity to fill the HC shoes and demonstrate he has HC DNA to lead this team deep in the postseason; he has not.

The players are offered a one-year "prove you're worth an extension" contract. Make that offer to MLF. Then it's up to him to make the necessary changes to the team culture and get the big pay-out, or hit the road. I can't image the uproar at the upcoming annual shareholders meeting if MLF is offered and signs a long-term contract.

"attend offensive meetings but he wouldn’t have to make any final decisions."

As a head coach shouldn't he make ALL the final decisions? That's the job. He has to let his coordinator know what he thinks should be done and looking at it from the outside might be able to see it better and be able to make adjustments on the fly.

If he's going to continue calling plays, he needs someone else he can trust to oversee the whole game like Andy R. does with some resent success. We all saw this season what happened to his Chiefs when he lost that trusted coordinator.

By the title I'm sure you will receive a lot dislikes Cory. I agree with you that LaFleur should be back. The part I disagree with is getting a new OC to call plays. That is what LaFleur gives. He gives us offenses that are really good. His playcalling was really good, unfortunately in this game the OL decided to not block in the 2nd half. I am fine if they want to get a new OC. I really don't know how good Steno is or isn't. I really don't have an opinion on that. But I would love to see someone inject some new ideas into the offense.

I do think LaFleur needs to make some changes to the coaching staff. Looking at how players developed at positions and if players played in the right spots, I think some changes need to be made. I have no clue how good or bad of coaches any of these guys are. I'm just looking at what the positions did. This is a light breakdown of each position group and if the coach for that group should stay or go.

QB - Love and Willis were fantastic. Keep
RB - RB's stayed about the same overall, minus injuries. I'd keep.
TE - Kraft is an All pro player who unfortunately got hurt. Whyle I thought played well. They just need more talent at the position. I'm fine keeping.
WR - This was another tough position with injuries. Watson started on PUP. Reed got hurt in week 2. Williams was out a lot. Wicks missed time. This group as a whole though to me is the strength of the team. I'd keep.
OL - This was a mess. A lot of injuries. Banks, Jenkins and Tom were injured a lot. Walker regressed. Rhyan played a new position because of the Jenkins injury. Morgan is clearly a Tackle only. They didn't start working Belton at G until late in the year, and it feels like he could do well there. I think they need a new OL coach. I'd move on.

DL - Parsons was a stud. Beyond that there were a ton of injuries. LVN missed a lot of games. Wyatt went on IR. Gary regressed. I thought Brooks and Wooden improved. Brinson flashed some. Sorrell and Oliver I thought flashed late. They obviously need to add talent, but the coaching I think should keep.
LB - Walker and Cooper are really good. McDuffie played well when he filled in for Walker. Beyond that we don't know. I'd say keep, but don't really have a strong opinion.
DB - This is tough. Probably the hardest on the team. CB's were not good. But the talent level wasn't good to begin with. And Hobbs missed a lot of time to injury. And Hadden comes in and gets hurt. Safety's are awesome. I think i'd keep the coach, but no matter what they need more talent.

Overall the only position that I truly needs a new coach is the OL. From playing Morgan at G when he showed he wasn't good there. The Walker regression. The Belton thing. I think its time to have a new voice there.

"I am not going to say that he should lose his job because former Ravens coach John Harbaugh and former Browns coach Kevin Stefanski have their own warts as well."

I'll admit I don't read everything Packer-related, but this is a new take for me. Has someone suggested MLF should be fired because John Harbaugh and Kevin Stefanski have warts? At the very least, this is a clear HIPPA violation. I I just don't see the logic here.

"And finally, there’s Mike LaFleur. He’s the current offensive coordinator for the Rams. Could Matt talk his brother to come to Green Bay and even better, would the LaFleur Bros. be able to team up and build something really strong in Green Bay?"

Let's not just roll with MLF again, let's exorcise his right to experiment with nepotism while we're at it. Because one MLF deserves another MLF. This is what I call truly doubling down. This author is off his rocker here. Jesus Christ!!

Ok, this is starting to get annoying and frustrating!

Its like we keeeeep repeating the same damn thing and expecting a different result each damn year!
My GOODNESS!!!!
The PACKERS MAIN PROBLEM IS NOT THAT WE DONT HAVE A GOOD TEAM! WE DONT HAVE A COACH THATS A GOOD GAME MANAGER. THATS THE DAMN PROBLEM. Any time you can be up 2 touchdowns, and still fear you will lose. ITS THE GAME MANAGER!

When you have your opponents coach adjust to the game and start doing things differently, its your job as a coach to try and COUNTER it. MLF HAS NEVER DONE SUCH! Because he is not a good game manager, he dont know how to adjust when the opponent does! MLF Best attribute is his GAME PLAY CALLING, which is also one of the reason why he cant be a proper game manager! He is sometimes stuck inside the playbook instead of seeing what the defense, special teams, and just the feel of the game in whats going on. A great coach needs to be a Jack of all trades instead of being great at one thing.

THIS TEAM IS SOFT.

AS A LONG TIME PACKERS FAN. I dont care if they keep him. The packers aren't getting a single penny from me.

Sports is starting to just feel like a money grab now a days with gambling and everything thats going on. No Integrity anymore, No fire anymore, Its only a few who truly care about LEGACY.

We are the only fanbase to have success at the most important position (QB) while being a failure. 30+ years with supposedly HOF QB with 1 SB Appearance to show for it is a FAILURE!

STEP AWAY FROM THE PUNCH BOWL DUDE!

It might work in the way Cory suggests.
LaFleur is good at game-planning, which he can continue to be involved in, but not so much at in-game adjustments, which he could leave to a new offensive coordinator.
I'm still inclined to fire LaFleur if the decision was mine to make, but I won't be devastated if we keep him. (So far, I don't see any great candidates to replace our current head coach.)
I have real hope for the Packers of 2026 either way.

MLF does not have the aptitude to manage in-game adjustments. That requires someone who can think on the fly is more adaptable & improvisational. He comes to each game with a good plan but cannot counter when the DC throws him a curveball.
He needs an OC, a good one, and he needs to accept he is a CEO not an OC.

There, I fixed it for you CCJ:

"Cory's Corner: LaFleur Should Stay Away"

Capeesh,

PB

Cory, you began your column with "The Packers collapsed yet again..." and you seriously want to bring back the coach responsible for those collapses? Seriously? You actually think a new OC would make a difference to this soft, unmotivated team? Seriously?

"I know there are a lot of people that want LaFleur gone as of yesterday. But is Harbaugh the answer? "

Why do you think those of us who want LaFleur gone ASAP want that retread? That's a straw man, Cory.

We want MLF gone. We want him replaced with someone competent. NOW. I was a huge Packers fan in the mid-late 60s, 70s, and 80s, and I remember those gory days quite well. Re-signing MLF WILL put us right back there and I WILL NOT want to witness those depressing days again.

I dont get why this has to be so hard.

You already have a coach on the coaching staff that everyone expects to be a HC in 2026. Jeff Hatley.

There are players like Micah who have endorsed MLF, and we hate the idea of pissing them off, BUT if you hire Hatley, who from all accounts is even more popular then MLF, you avoid all that miscontent.

You dont need to "search" for a replacement for MLF, hes already on the team.

The "but theres noone better out there" argument is foolish. The next HC is on the team already.

One thing with so very many fans is a constant. if there are problems, it's all on the head coach (which in itself is ok. He is in charge of what is put on the field).

However, what is foolish is a knee jerk 'Head coach must be fired'. Straight for the nuclear button with no consideration whatsoever for the alternatives currently out there and THEIR faults. No consideration for what he has done well to balance against failures. No consideration that other changes might be better than a HC coach change (like changing the ST Coordinator, the OC, the O line coach).

You can blow the whole thing up, GM, HC et al, and just maybe you end up like the Bears for the previous 40 odd years. Be careful what you wish for, because if you get your wish, it may be a monkey's paw result (which means you get your wish, but in the worst possible way).

Warts on two fired coaches? What has that got to do with retaining LaFleur? IF there's a point it's obtuse at best.
In the salary cap era a team has to remain young to be successful for any length of time. A team can only give a few of their best players huge contracts. They have to hit on draft picks and cheap free agents to stay competitive over the long haul.
Who can LaFleur bring in to call plays? Where are all these great play callers? Any successful play caller will be getting head coaching interviews.
How are the Packers going to talk to Mike LaFleur? They would need to get permission from the Rams. Does Mike LaFleur call plays for the Rams? That would be a solid NO. Why bring him up?

A 7 year sample size is not a'knee jerk' reaction

Hello RCP,

So when R. Walker kept getting blown up in the second half to let pressures and sacks occur, did the coaches make any adjustments?

Mike Wahle said R. Walker either "...had a lobotomy in the second half or just wasn't prepared for what the Bares did"....

He claimed that lack of preparation IS on coaching and the player both. Therefore, who is responsible for coaching?

No MLF should not Cory!!

It's Control, trust, and the best chance to win,
by directly implementing his game plan and philosophy.

Jordan Love would be in control.
You know and I know it.

We saw that with Rodgers and the Jets.

The current Packers are a perfect confluence of the wrong people at the top followed by a GM who is marginal at best and particularly poor in roster construction, a HC who repeats the same mistakes in every game, year after year and refuses to hire help. And, a fanbase who thinks things will get better next year.

Watch how they distract the fans with the upcoming Draft articles...hope is on the horizon.

This article made an excellent point about the Packers having the youngest team in the league for three seasons. That is a reflection on Gute and his drafts during his eight years as the Packers GM. His first 4 drafts have left the team nothing except for Jordan Love. Yes this makes MLF's role as the HC more difficult but it is also a reason for the Packers to move on from Gute as well as moving on from MLF.

The Packers need to build a team that has some core veterans after 4,5 and 6 years. This Packers team currently has no one except for Love with more than 3-4 seasons with the team. There is no point in having continuity with coaches if the team does not have any players who benefit from that continuity.

It's time to give the GM full responsibility for all football operations and let him choose his HC and build a team with several core players. If we keep either Gute and/or MLF the Packers will continue with their roster churning and we will remain a middle of the pack team with early playoff exits at best.
Thanks, Since '61

Wrong again.

How many people really want Harbaugh here? I don't, wart free or not. Stefanski, being named coach of the year twice with the Browns, that carries some credibility in my mind. I'd like to see Klint Kubiak given a shot. He wouldn't break the bank as a first time head coach.

The players love MLF, big deal, where has that gotten them? Let them all sign a Valentines Day card and send it to him on February 14th.

Losing in general, especially in the playoffs, seems to have become acceptable and expected in Green Bay. That's what will continue to happen as long as he is here, no matter how many times he says something is unacceptable.

If MLF is brought back it should be under certain conditions.
1) Hire a true OC and let them call plays under the MLF umbrella. Mike McDaniels?
2) Fire Butkus and move Stenovich back to coaching the OL.
3) If Hafley leaves, bring Brian Flores in and pay him accordingly. Make him assistant head coach.
4) Actually devote some practice time to special teams. Don't know for sure who the best special teams coaches are, but I would contact Rizzi and see if he has an underling he would recommend.

Just my 2 cents