The phrase "hold out" infers a player is refusing to show up to camp / play as a means to leverage a team to change or improve a contract, or release the player from it. It intimates a contentious atmosphere where a player is attempting to force the team into a contract adjustment the team doesn't actually want to accommodate.

That's definitely not what happened here. Love was at all the offseason activities. He reported for the first day of camp early. He's been in every meeting. He's been in the training room. He's been available to his teammates. He's been on the sidelines at Practice. He's been interacting in a casual, friendly way with not only the coaches, but the general manager.

The Packers and Love were hammering out the final details of the contract the last 5 days. Love's not being on the field during team practice was not a contentious means to leverage the Packers front office into giving him a better deal. It was nothing more that making sure he didn't get injured before the contract was finalized.

I would have preferred the Packers and Love had got it all signed sealed and delivered before the first day of camp, but that didn't happen. It's great that it got taken care of before the first padded practice. That's the good news and now it's time to roll.

The Packers understand this. They had no ill will towards Love or his decision to not get on the field until the contract was signed. Why do so many fans want so desperately to make this into something it wasn't?

The Packers just extended a young man with great talent, leadership skills, and character. Why are people so eager to turn Love into the bad guy?

WOW! Love does a hold-in for one week, makes zero snarky comments in the media or elsewhere and signs a market comparable deal for quarterbacks and suddenly he is a selfish SOB who exploited Packer management. Overreact much?

Whether we like it or not, this is the price of quarterbacks today. Brady had a super model wife who earned more than he did and that allowed him to be an exception. To expect Love to take less than the market for his first big contract is ludicrous.

I was trying really hard to give you the benefit of the doubt and read your reply with an open mind WD. But then came your statement "and even other teams will be leery of wanting him." For God's sake, a team was willing to sign Deshaun F*ing Watson to a mega deal and Love has none of that baggage. This deal will look like a steal by the time it's up for renewal.

I don't see how you can call Love "very selfish". He wants to be a Packer.

Many Diva QBs loudly make their demands or "trade me!", ripping the Team in the media, looking for the microphone, and other tripe. Sound familiar?

Love and his agent quietly negotiated behind the scenes, Love was in camp, in meetings, mentoring and leading his teammates, no contract drama. Sound unfamiliar?

Gutey "really had no choice"? Yes he did...he could have traded Love and probably earned the greatest draft choices/players haul in NFL history. Gutey sees the potential for the 3rd HOFer in a row. We will have to see.

I don't get too worked up over other people spending their own money. Many who are upset with Love's contract are more envious than anything. And that is a selfish emotion.

Love continue's to impress me with his quiet demeanor, solid leadership and work ethic on and off the field.

LOL your delusional.

Brady was married at the time to supermodel Gisele Bundchen. Her estimated financials are approximately $400 million. In brief, he didn't need the money. Besides, Brady is estimated to have made $200 million from endorsements during his playing time. Same thing with Mahones. So did Rodgers before he got more controversial.

Appears to be a 4 year deal starting this season. Packer through 2028.

As LP said, you can't be under two contracts...this overwrites the contract he had for 2024.

It is starting to resemble the Entertainment Industry, unlike US businesses that create things... beyond pleasure pursuits.

Love is a pauper compared to Taylor Swift.

He better not cancel any "shows" like she does!

"Teams are very savvy about cutting veterans and keeping the younger lower paid players."

The NFLPA has always tried to keep an eye on the security of its veteran players, but seemingly not at the expense of driving contract values up on the top end.

This is pretty much right: the cap is an unforgiving master, and as it continues to go up at a rate that outpaces the rate of increase of the league and vet minimum, the losers are going to be the guys in the middle.

"How do you think AJ Dillon really feels about this structure after taking the cut he has just to stay on the team."

He's one of those guys caught in the middle at a low-priority position. He's still going to make a butt-load of money--compared to what the average schmoe makes--even after an unremarkable 2023, and will likely hang on in the league for a couple years yet--especially if he plays more STs.

'''''''' How do you think AJ Dillon really feels about this structure after taking the cut he has just to stay on the team. '''''

Nobody can know. But the facts are that he's just turned 26, he's already made over $5M (more than most earn in a lifetime), he has a smoking hot wife. he gets to play football in Green Bay, he's got a shot at the Super Bowl and maybe a contract for another year.. I don't think it hurt him to take a paycut at all. The dude is winning.

On the QB, I call it The Quarterback Trap. You sign the QB to his second deal, the one with big money. BUT......that's a waste of money unless he has weapons, and blocking. So you have to spend resources there. Where do you balance the books? On the backs of the defense?

We're very fortunate right now. We only have about three guys getting paid....Love, Jacobs, Jenkins. Everybody else is a minimum wage, rookie contract guy. That's going to change in two years.

You mean like Rodgers first lock up contract? His was even "too sooner"...getting his deal halfway through his first starting season then finishing 6-10.

At least Love's "later" deal came with a impressive resume of making the playoffs his first starting year, going to the playoffs and just missing the NFCCG.

Yup…everyone’s same thing…including Gute. We pray he’s not the next Blake Bortles and plan on another stud quarterback!

Actually it was based on 19 full season games, a few spot starts, and his behavior in practice... taken in total with continuous improvement and nearly taking the Pack to the NFCCG year 1.

Rodgers first lock up deal was after 8 games and he finished 6-10 and was less productive on the field than Love was, who also outplayed Favre's first starting season.

He could suddenly bust, get a devastating injury, etc. But the Packers had a greater body of more impressive work from Love in his first starting year than either HOFers Rodgers or Favre.

Amazing to consider it.

Agreed. Tech guy here so I know its not my system or internet. They need to fix it soon before many of us leave.

Sports have always been part of the “real world “. Ever notice how old-timey NFL/big league players were all white? One of the strengths of the Lombardi era Packers was that they made a more thorough break with Jim Crow than other teams.

"I like Jordan Love. I hope he isn't becoming a diva."

You keep posting this comment. What has Love done since he was drafted that would indicate he's a diva. Because he signed his contract that his agent negotiated for him? Is Tua a diva? Is Lawrence a dive? Herbert? Jackson?

Jordan Love has done nothing except show up for work since he was drafted. His teammates seem to love him, as does the coaching staff/front office. I think it's really unfair for you to keep linking his name to the word diva in most of your recent posts.

A thumbs up from me, stockholder, although I'm not as pessimistic and even retain some hopefulness.
Although all of us are susceptible to greed, all of us have some good within.
Most of us are striving to increase the good inside and to overcome the evil.
I like to think most of the people in America -- including our Packers -- are for the most part good people.
Even though I'm concerned about what is becoming of Jordan Love, and how that affects the Packers, I still like to think he is mostly a good guy.
I still root for him to go in the right direction as a player and a person.
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I share your concerns, though, stockholder.
All of us are so frail, and can so easily go astray.
Then, when we sacrifice our principles for practicalities, we tend to lose both. We are our own worst enemies.
Hopefully, we encourage each toward goodness as well as success. That's the essence of the Lombardi way. It helped a team of imperfect people to not only reach the heights of shared achievement and satisfying camaraderie, but also to grow in virtue as individuals. That's why those Packers attained not only a good measure of fame, but of glory. People across America saw something in that underdog team from a remote city that resonated in who we want to be.
So, let's hope and pray for Jordan Love, for all the Packers players, coaches and administrators, and also for ourselves.
Let's cheer for each other.
As we see with homefield advantage, it can make a big difference.

I get the impression you have zero idea what the word "diva" means

"Jordan Love had no expectations, no pressure last year."

Really? A number 1 draft pick many fans hated and panned (a of those fans here!) replacing #12 had tremendous pressure and expectations on him.

He performed well in spite of the pressure and not only met expectations, he exceeded them.

He had more pressure on him than Rodgers or Favre did.