Changes Are Coming in Green Bay, But Not The Ones Many Want

"Disheveled."

That's a pretty accurate word to describe how most are feeling after Saturday's disaster. That was the word Matt LaFleur used to describe his team during the second half. Disheveled is a heavy adjective to describe his team, but it does fit. The Packers' failure to finish will go down as one of the worst collapses in recent memory. It might even rival the infamous 2014 NFC Championship Game debacle. It was inexcusable and crushing. But as the old adage goes, "Never make a permanent decision based on a temporary emotion."

Green Bay's season didn't end on Saturday. The season essentially ended on December 14th in Denver. The Packers lost the game to drop to 9-4-1, but the injuries were far worse than a tally in the loss column. Green Bay also lost Micah Parsons and Zach Tom for the remainder of the season, and they never recovered. They had already lost Devonte Wyatt and Tucker Kraft to season-ending injuries earlier in the season. This team was never going to contend for a Super Bowl without four of its best players. 

Keeping that in mind, the Packers still found new and crushing ways to lose football games. Each one got harder and harder to swallow. They fumbled away a game to Chicago in Week 16, were steamrolled by Baltimore in Week 17, and even lost a glorified exhibition match to Minnesota. They had chances to win all of them, but they couldn't seal the deal. All of those losses pale in comparison to the epic collapse that happened on Saturday night.

Emotions are high. Losing to Chicago in any fashion is difficult to accept, but it's even worse when Green Bay self-imploded after jumping out to a commanding lead. It'll be a long offseason after a loss like that. Everyone in the Packers organization needs to partake in some self-reflection and be critical of themselves. Changes could, and should, be made. Everything is on the table. There's plenty to sort out, so buckle up for a long read.

Starting at the Top

There's been plenty of buzz surrounding Matt LaFleur's future with the Green Bay Packers. Rarely does a coach enter a season with only one year left on his deal, so the timing of this allowed the new President and CEO, Ed Policy, to observe and examine LaFleur for a full season before deciding on whether to extend him or move on. Reports surfaced on Saturday morning from Ian Rapoport of NFL Network that LaFleur was not coaching for his job, regardless of what happened on Saturday night.

Then Saturday night happened.

The Packers were in complete control in all three phases of the game, allowing them to jump out to a 21-3 halftime lead. The offense was executing better than it had in weeks, maybe even months. The run game was effective, receivers were running wide open, and Love had all day to pick apart Chicago's defense. LaFleur was mixing and matching his formations, keeping Chicago's defense on their heels. It was a perfect marriage between the run and pass game.

The second half was a different story. LaFleur's coaching turned into an all-time awful coaching performance. His offense imploded, punting on four straight possessions to start the second half. They were unable to even pick up a first down until the end of the third quarter. LaFleur completely lost his feel for the game once he got the lead, and ultimately, it cost them. Dennis Allen made adjustments, and LaFleur was unable to counter.  Green Bay's defense was holding on for dear life. They kept bending, bending, and bending until finally, they broke because the offense couldn't sustain a drive.  There was a tangible feeling that the Packers were going to blow the game, and that's what happened.

The Packers were once sitting with a 9-3-1 record and looked primed to win the division. They even were in contention for the #1 overall seed. Then everything fell apart in Denver. LaFleur was lucky to finish above .500. This season alone, the Packers lost five games where they led by nine or more points. Per ESPN Insights, they are also the first team since 1970 to lose three games when leading by ten or more points in the final five minutes of the game, including playoffs. Unfortunately, performances like these have become LaFleur's MO going all the way back to when he took over as the head coach.

  • 2019: The Packers were blown out by San Francisco in the NFC Championship game 37-20.
  • 2020: Tom Brady threw three interceptions in the second half, but LaFleur took the ball out of Rodgers' hands and the Packers fell 31-26.
  • 2021: The Packers self-imploded at home, blew a 4th quarter lead, and lost 13-10.
  • 2022: In a win-and-in scenario, Green Bay lost 20-16 after only scoring seven points in the second half.
  • 2023: Jordan Love went nuclear in Dallas to advance, but the Packers blew a 21-14 4th quarter lead in San Francisco to lose 24-21.
  • 2024: Green Bay only managed three points through three quarters, proved to be outmatched in every phase by Philadelphia, and ultimately lost 22-10. 
  • 2025: The Packers melted down, blew a 15-point 4th quarter lead, and lost 31-27.

The conversation surrounding whether or not to bring back LaFleur as head coach is understandable. LaFleur started his head coaching career by going 39-10, including 2-3 in the postseason. He won the division all three years and was knocking on the door to the Super Bowl twice. Since then, he's gone 37-30, including 1-3 in the playoffs, and hasn't won a division title. His coordinator choices have been questionable, his in-game management hasn't improved, and his team isn't always ready to play in big games. It could be argued that since Rodgers left the Packers, LaFleur hasn't been the same coach.

That said, LaFleur has finished above .500 in six of his seven seasons as the head coach. LaFleur started with an older locker room filled with strong egos. He managed to take those teams to two NFC Championship games and helped Aaron Rodgers win two MVP awards. Then the roster shifted, and LaFleur has taken the youngest team in the league to three straight playoff appearances. LaFleur is a significant reason Jordan Love has developed into a top-ten, perhaps even top-five, quarterback in the NFL. He even helped Malik Willis look like a starting NFL quarterback. The value he adds as an offensive play caller is something that cannot be easily replaced. LaFleur has his flaws, without a doubt, but all the good he's done shouldn't be overlooked either.

The head coach should take the heat for a team's failures, but jumping to conclusions based on emotions usually isn't good business either. LaFleur wasn't good enough on Saturday night, and he acknowledged that. That said, the responsibility doesn't rest entirely on his shoulders. A big reason for the second-half collapse was that the beat-up offensive line imploded. Rasheed Walker and Anthony Belton were terrible, both allowing six pressures each. It wasn't that LaFleur became a conservative play caller; it's that every play he was calling was wrecked by the offensive line consistently blowing blocks and protections. LaFleur can certainly be blamed for what happens outside of the whistles, but he shouldn't be completely blamed for what happens between the whistles.

The crowd wanting LaFleur to be fired is growing, and understandably so. That said, LaFleur is widely regarded as one of the better head coaches in the league. Many of his star players (Jordan Love, Micah Parsons, Josh Jacobs, Tucker Kraft, etc.) all gave him ringing endorsements. His offense hasn't gone stale, and he doesn't seem to have lost the locker room. Will LaFleur ever win a Super Bowl? That's impossible to predict. Maybe he'll never get over the hump. A change could be necessary, but it can also get a lot worse.

Whether fans like it or not, it sounds like Ed Policy has already made his decision regarding LaFleur's future. It's been reported multiple times that the Packers are "expected to try" to extend their head coach. The wording of that report is strange, but it seems as if both sides want an extension to get done. Rapoport added, "Several coaches are monitoring that situation. It's just hard to believe, we'll see, but hard to believe the Packers do not get something done."

LaFleur Isn't The Only Coach to Blame

Regardless of what happens with LaFleur, changes need to be made with the coaching staff. None of LaFleur's coordinators were good enough down the stretch. The lack of offensive adjustments could fall just as much on Adam Stenovich as it does on LaFleur. Jeff Hafley's defense gave a valiant effort for three quarters, but it still allowed 25 points in the 4th quarter. Oh, and Rich Bisaccia's special teams units were atrocious once again. It might be unfair to speak about the assistant coaches when no one outside of the organization knows if they're good at their job or not, but the product on the field wasn't good enough, and that's partially a result of the assistants.

The one assistant whose job is safe is Jeff Hafley, but Lafleur isn't expecting him back. Hafley will be interviewing for other head coaching jobs, and LaFleur expects Hafley to get one of them. If Hafley doesn't land one of those gigs, he will certainly be back. Hafley didn't take the step forward many were expecting, though. His defense came up short on multiple key occasions. That falls on Hafley, but it's also on his defensive assistants and the personnel he was given.

DeMarcus Covington was brought in to elevate the defensive line. Micah was Micah. Devonte Wyatt and Colby Wooden both took steps forward. Outside of those three, there wasn't a ton of progression within that position group. Sean Duggan took over for Anthony Campanile as the linebackers coach, but none of the linebackers have taken a step forward. There was also talk all offseason about forcing turnovers. Everyone was talking about the work Wendel Davis, the "ball king," was doing to help generate turnovers, yet the Packers generated fewer in 2025 than they did in 2024.

It's really hard to gauge how good Adam Stenovich is at his job. It's LaFleur's offense, and LaFleur calls the plays. Stenovich might be the best offensive coordinator in the league. He might also be the worst; no one truly knows. Stenovich has been the offensive coordinator for the last four seasons. Before he took the job, the Packers had a 0.759 winning percentage. After Stenovich took over as the offensive coordinator, the winning percentage dropped to 0.535. Maybe it's something, maybe it's nothing, but it's worth a conversation.

Some other offensive assistants should be examined. How many of the wide receivers have significantly improved over the last couple of years? Christian Watson might be the only one. Jason Vrable and Ryan Mahaffey both work directly with the wide receivers, but they haven't progressed as much as originally hoped. The same question could be asked about the offensive line. The offensive front plagued Green Bay's offense the entire season. Since Luke Butkas took over for Stenovich as the offensive line coach, the offensive line units haven't been as much of a strength. Neither position group progressed as expected.

Special teams is the one area that absolutely needs a change, and one might be coming. When asked about bringing back Rich Bisaccia, LaFleur was noncommittal. The Packers paid Bisaccia top-dollar to "fix" their special teams units, but they've hardly improved. To make matters worse, they made him the Assistant Head Coach and then extended his contract. At this point, it's fair to question if Bisaccia brings anything positive to the table. Brandon McManus missed three crucial kicks last night. The punt coverage was a nightmare. He even started experimenting with returners in a win-or-go-home game. Changes need to be made, and it sure seems as if they're coming.

Injuries, Injuries, and More Injuries

It's fair to criticize the entire coaching staff for their performance down the stretch, but it's hard to envision any coaching staff overcoming the litany of injuries that the Packers endured this season. The Packers finished the year with 15 players on IR, including nine who played key roles before getting hurt. The Packers also had one player on the PUP list and two on the practice squad IR. The weekly injury report always consisted of ten or more players. The Packers just couldn't get or stay healthy. Amongst the players that were missing:

  • Zayne Anderson (key special teamer and starting gunner)
  • John FitzPatrick (key and versatile offensive piece)
  • Nate Hobbs (potential starter at cornerback)
  • Elgton Jenkins (starting center)
  • Tucker Kraft (starting tight end and potentially the best offensive weapon)
  • Bo Melton (key special teamer and starting gunner)
  • Micah Parsons (best defensive player)
  • Savion Williams (starting kick returner)
  • Devonte Wyatt (best interior defensive linemen)

Injuries in the NFL are bound to happen, but it sure felt like the Packers had it worse than other teams. It might've just been really bad luck. It could also be their training or rehabilitation programs. Similar to the assistant coaches, it's impossible to know if the Packers' training staff is good at their job, but it's fair to question. The Packers were given a "B" on the most recent NFLPA report card for their training staff, which ranked 16th out of 32 teams.

The strength and conditioning staff is in the same boat. The Packers earned a "B" for their strength coaches, ranking 27th of 32 teams. Matt LaFleur hired Aaron Hill as Green Bay's new Strength and Conditioning Coordinator back in 2024, but it doesn't seem that he's had the intended impact. Hill came from San Francisco, another team that frequently suffers from poor injury luck. It's probably time to re-evaluate this department once again.

These departments may have absolutely nothing to do with the Packers' poor injury history. It's truly impossible to know. But as David Bakhtiari pointed out, Green Bay needs the sports science department to get it right, or injuries will continue to plague the organization year after year. The Packers can't be playing in January without several of their best players, or they will never advance in the playoffs.

The Roster May See Some New Faces in 2026

Regardless of any changes on the coaching staff, Green Bay's roster is going to look different in 2026. They have nine players who will be unrestricted free agents and five more who will be restricted free agents. There's a strong chance many of them are gone. Green Bay simply can't afford to pay them all, and honestly, they shouldn't. Some of the notable players who will probably sign elsewhere are Rasheed Walker, Kingsley Enagbare, Romeo Doubs, Malik Willis, and Quay Walker. That's a lot of snaps that will be vacated that Brian Gutekunst and his staff will need to fill.

The Packers have 47 current players under contract for next season, but many of them aren't a sure thing to be on the team come next September. Rashan Gary, Elgton Jenkins, Keisean Nixon, and Trevon Diggs are all candidates to be cap casualties. Even Josh Jacobs, Nate Hobbs, and Brandon McManus should feel a little uneasy based on their contracts. The Packers can't afford to pay players right now who won't return on their investment. 

Ultimately, the Packers just need their best players back and healthy, but there are plenty of spots that could use fresh reinforcements. The downside is the Packers don't have the money to make any big splashes in free agency or a first-round pick. The new faces they bring in will be low-level free agents and later-round draft picks. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's going to leave plenty of question marks going into next year.

Changes Are Coming, Just Not The One People Want

Regardless of what happens over the next few months, the 2026 Green Bay Packers are going to look different. A lot of people want Matt LaFleur to be fired. That's understandable. All of the criticisms are fair. He hasn't been good enough in crucial moments. Maybe it's all his fault, maybe it's on his assistants, or maybe it's on the players. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. It doesn't sound like LaFleur is going anywhere, but changes are going to be made after the Packers performed like that down the stretch.

If something changes and LaFleur isn't back with the Packers, they'd better hope they find a coach who can elevate this roster. Is there any surefire candidate? Probably not. Some want Hafley to be the new head coach, but his defense didn't leave much to be desired after he lost Micah Parsons. Some people want John Harbaugh, but he's 63 years old and known for blowing games in the second half. Harbaugh will also command top-of-the-market money, which the Packers try to avoid. LaFleur provides such an offensive advantage that it would be hard to replicate. There's no guarantee anyone would be a better option than LaFleur.

Everything falls on the head coach, as it should. But before jumping to irrational conclusions, it's important to examine who else carries some of the responsibility. Some of it falls on the coaching staff. The players who aren't executing also share some of the blame. Some of it is just dumb luck. It's really hard to win in the NFL without your best players, and the Packers were without many of their stars. This would have been a much different discussion had the Packers held on and beaten Chicago on Saturday, but that calamity raised some difficult questions that may lead to some uncomfortable decisions. 

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Carter Semb is a lifelong Packer fan, shareholder, and season ticket holder. He is a contributor for Cheesehead TV and Packers Talk. For commentary surrounding Wisconsin sports, he can be found on X at @cmsemb.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:03 pm

Hurts my ears to listen. And it burns my eyes to see.

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KenEllis's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:27 pm

The critical changes coming to GB in 2026 are (A) MLF will be paid an additional $5M or more to coach the team and (B) MLF's new and upgraded aesthetician will have him looking more handsome than ever.

On the field, the team will continue to choke when the going gets tough and the usual apologists will draw from their deep well of excuses to explain to the unknowing masses why we have the best head coach in the NFL.

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Coldworld's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:29 pm

After a discomforting few days, I just got a text from a Bears acquaintance with a quote from this piece:

“LaFleur provides such an offensive advantage that it would be hard to replicate.”

It was followed by pretty clear evidence of side splitting disdain for the perspicacity of Packer fans. I have to agree: though I don’t find it as funny, it’s perhaps the most risible statement since Saturday evening. Only a true homer could come out with that this week, or this month actually.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:21 pm

There ain't a place a man can hide will keep him from the sun.

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jlc1's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:29 pm

"He hasn't been good enough in critical moments." He has had his chances to be good enough. He hasn't been. Why in the world would you expect him to get better? I have resisted the idea that some here have floated and that is that the people who run this organization don't want to win or don't know what it takes to win. By win I mean win the conference, win the SB, not just 10 games a year. I now agree with that if MLF is extended.

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jlc1's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:34 pm

P.S. That coaching staff that got indicted in this article are all on MLF as well. He chose them and they are the ones who are failing at making these players better over a season and better at "critical moments". MLF will not fire any of them except maybe Bisaccia who, if he really wanted to make amends to MLF as he said before the season, would man up and walk away.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:06 pm

"He chose them" - jlc1

Exactly right...but he couldn't do the job as the head coach, and send Bisaccia packing.
No no no

He will now!!...because like i said before, in the last week or two, Bisaccia WILL be....the fall guy.

Bottom line......

The head coach should have replaced him before this season.
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If it's true that they want to work out an extension with MLF, that means they are going to extend Gute also.

To me...all that means is that the B.O.D.'s have found their new puppet.

His name is Ed Policy.

We've been going back to the 70 and 80's in slow motion. Starting back in 2018.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:17 pm

NFLfan...is that you?

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:09 pm

Dude....i follow this s...
If i didn't, i wouldn't speak about it.

Yes, i'm reaching when i say Policy is the Boards puppet, but it wouldn't be entirely out of the realm.

Read my recent post concerning who is in charge of this team.

I'd love to hear your viewpoint on that.

Thanks 13.
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I'm writing with a lot of aggression which is rare these days, i was fine until i got home and read Carter Sembs article.
That jacked me up to an 11 on a 1-10....lol
I haven't been this bent, since the Seattle NFCCG, seriously.

How many bad beatdowns do we have to watch?

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:38 pm

"We've been going back to the 70 and 80's in slow motion. Starting back in 2018."

Really? Since 2018 we're going back to the 70s/80s?

2018...6-9-1
2019...13-3
2020...13-3
2021...13-4
2022...8-9
2023...9-8
2024...11-6
2025...9-7-1

82-49-2 is the 70s/80s to you?

I liked your posts more when you didn't give a shit about up/down votes. You've changed.

I have no idea what 1265 decides on Gute/Lafleur. We'll find out soon enough.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 08:11 pm

Ok, i'll slow it down for you.

I'm not talking records, i haven't talked about records since, i don't know when.
You're correct, the records better now, no doubt.
I think having Rodgers and Love might have affected that
No offense Randy Wright.
Plus, there has been a 180 degree culture change in Green Bay courtesy of Harlan/mostly Wolf.
I'm hoping i don't have to explain any of that that.
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Most all my recent post have been talking about football operations.

The Board telling Murphy, that TT needed to be removed. (2018). BTW....i don't blame the Board for doing that, it was overdue, and it was the right thing, and it seems, everyone knew, except Murphy.
The transfer of power out of the GM's hands (2018)

I'll trust you know that Murphy changed the bylaws, and removed power from the GM?
Maybe you haven't read any of my post today, talking about football operations.

In the 70's and 80's...results didn't much matter to the Packers.
Do you think this seasons results are going to matter?
Doesn't look like it right?
Maybe Bisaccia gets canned, it's overdue imo.
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Now...question 13Time
Who is running football operations right now for the Green Bay Packers?
Who has full control?

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 08:42 pm

"Now...question 13Time
Who is running football operations right now for the Green Bay Packers?
Who has full control?"

How the fu*k would I know who is in full control? I'm a fan that enjoys watching the Packers provide me 3 hours of entertainment a week half the year. And then...and I'm sure this is going to blow your mind...I move onto other things that provide me enjoyment. Grandkids, my lovely wife, riding my motorcycle through the desert I'm blessed to live in.

Unlike you and your weird BFF, NFLfan, who profess to know "what's really going on" , I'll defer to you both.

Yes..peace.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 09:57 pm

You should really consider doing something about your anger problem.

I would try to convince you of the joys i find in my life, but that seems a little odd to me on a football forum.

But if it works for you, God bless.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 08:25 pm

"I liked your posts more when you didn't give a shit about up/down votes. You've changed." 13Time
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Lol...anyone here knows i give no f about thumbs up/down.
The only thing i've said is people who thumbs down without a reply, are WEAK, and i still do.
I wore my badge of thumbs down, joked about it all the time.

This season....my thumbs up sky rocketed for whatever reason. Maybe people agreed with me (sorry), i don't know, i didn't think anyone's feelings would be hurt by it.

I have about as much control over who gives me a thumbs up as i do running the Green Bay Packers...ZILCH.

Peace brother.

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MooPack's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:32 pm

“Never make a permanent decision based on a temporary emotion."

I have a few better ones:
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

“The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior “

“Study the past if you would define the future “

“History is a guide to navigation in perilous times. History is who we are and why we are the way we are”

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jlc1's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:34 pm

Oh, SNAP!!!

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egbertsouse's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:38 pm

How about , “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

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TKWorldWide's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:54 pm

How about:
I know
For I told me so
And I’m sure each of you quite agrees:
The more it stays the same,
The less it changes!

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the_gavia_pass's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:43 pm

why nobody discuss about the board members????
they are destroying the packers!

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egbertsouse's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:40 pm

The BOD is a bunch of local business people who are just happy to get a free lunch from Curly’s Pub.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 12, 2026 at 08:54 pm

Which is quite a feat because Curly's Pub has been gone since around 2014.

And, if you review the list of BOD members, it's a statewide group of very successful business people who do what a non-profit BOD does.

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Oppy's picture

January 12, 2026 at 09:35 pm

Must be the preservatives.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:21 pm

I've talked about them.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 12, 2026 at 08:55 pm

ya, but why you not discuss them??????????

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 10:00 pm

Why you not read my post?

Why do i have a hankering for a banana all of a sudden? 😲

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Houndog's picture

January 13, 2026 at 06:29 am

Been saying that for years, they only count the dollars, not the victories!

Have you ever seen a statue of a 'Committee' in a park, in front of a Courthouse, or a Capital building?
NO!
And the Packers Board of Directors won't be seeing theirs in front of Lambeau anytime soon!

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:55 pm

"Green Bay's season didn't end on Saturday." - Carter Semb
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BS!!

This clown thinks the season ended Dec 14th.....

"The season essentially ended on December 14th in Denver. The Packers lost the game to drop to 9-4-1, but the injuries ....." - Semb

Back to the injury excuse......
See San Fran, see 2010 Packers.

The Packers had EVERY chance to beat the Bears, injuries be damned.
PLENTY of chances!!!

This article (author) pisses me off.

I watched the game, it ended Sat. Night, period!!
The reasons why have been beat to death on here.
But i'm going to put it in the most simplistic term, why they lost.

The Bears came out in the second half 'INSPIRED'
The Packers clearly 'DID NOT'.

The Bears played the 2nd half, like they wanted it, they fought for it.
The Packers did not.

Injuries Carter?
HOW did we get up 21-3 with so many injured players....Carter?...Riddle me that !!!!

The Packers lost, because they came out of halftime uninspired (maybe thinking this game was theirs at 21-3).
The Bears came out at halftime, inspired and ready to fight.

That can't be disputed.

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TPCheese's picture

January 13, 2026 at 02:27 am

I couldn't agree more. None of those injured players were an issue when the Packers were up by three scores at halftime, Then the second half meltdown ensued and all the apologists want to talk about how the odds were stacked against GB. Give me a break...

Would the team have been better with all those missing players? Absolutely. Is it the reason that they lost Saturday? Nope. The Packers were in total control of that game until they weren't. They have a habit of giving away games that they have no business losing. It's getting to the point where it may have to be studied like other head scratching phenomena, such as the Paulding light, the Bermuda Triangle, or a posi track rear end on a Plymouth.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 12, 2026 at 03:57 pm

I disagree that Hafley never put a good defense on the field after losing Micah. He adjusted quite well, using players intelligently and getting a lot out of them. Our offense being unable to sustain drives was a big contributer to the fourth quarter failures.

Not using Diggs more I call a mistake. Using #1 so much without a preseason could also be considered a mistake that may have contributed to the injury, but playing your best players is not usually defined as a fault.

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Turophile's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:30 pm

Compared to MooPack and Since'75 (and several others), here is a little ray of sunshine among the venting. Well done SicSemperTyrannis. Worth a like.

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mjbrogno's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:02 pm

Changes need to be made but, if MLF is retained , his track record on picking assistant coaches is not good, PERIOD!!! If changes need to be made how about the scouting department ? We can’t pick S**t. The year that Myers ,( Ohio State ) was picked, Humphrey from Oklahoma the better center and available , where’s Myers now ? Humphrey is an all pro. Last year DeJean should have been picked, nope, we pick Morgan, LT from ASU. Morgan can’t even beat out a horrible LT, Walker. I know let’s cross train him to play other line positions, Bulls***. Oh yeah, let’s waste 40 million to pay Hobbs to play the slot, same position as DeJean, real good moves. So when training camp starts we’ll find out if Morgan can be our left tackle.

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Vachio's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:58 pm

The Morgan thing is more of an indictment on the coaching staff than it is on the player, IMO. This coaching staff, for whatever reason, insists on keeping OL players on the field even when they're massively underperforming. Look at what they did last year with Myers. Everybody and their mother could see plain as day that he was the weak link and was costing the team dearly by being on the field. The staff responded by saying that he was having the best season of his career.

True to form, they leave Walker out there despite play after play in the 2nd half of him letting free runners blow up the play. I feel like most other coaching staffs would have benched him. Granted, the cupboard was pretty bare by that point, but still. He was playing so bad, whoever was left on the bench couldn't have been much worse.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:08 pm

* It's unfortunate that LaFleur isn't as creative with his play calling - as he is in making excuses for game losses.

* Important to differentiate LaFleur's regular season winning percentage of .654 vs. a playoff percentage of .333. So if the Packers want to hire a coach for the regular season - perhaps renew LaFleur. However, if the Packers want to win playoff games. LaFleur? Really?

* The projected changes for next year is largely due to salary cap issues. Not proactive and visionary management.

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exbody's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:33 pm

I've been a packer fan since the mid-1970s. So I've lived through some really bad packer teams. But what was a constant through those losing years was a tough, physical team that teams knew when you played the packets you better tighten your chin straps.
Another constant was the Lambeau field home advantage. As far back as the Curly Lambeau teams, home field advantage MEANT SOMETHING. The FROZEN TUNDRA was hell for opposing teams.
Now we flash forward to the current Packers teams under Matt Lefluer. We now have a coach who has clearly shown that teams are no longer intimated playing in Lambeau. But I think what's even more devastating is the tough.grity l, physical play that defined packer teams has slowly but surely disappeared under Matt Lefluer.
I'll say the quiet part out loud. MATT LEFLUER is a SOFT coach! The evidence is overwhelming
His soft coaching has now trickled down to the players that was on full display this past Saturday. In order to have a epic meltdown like Saturday in chicago must include players not matching the intensity and physicality that the Bears displayed. The Packers were pushed around like little kids on a school playground.
Consider this .....in ONE season the Chicago Bears have completely flipped the script and the Packets are the whipping boy of the Chicago Bears. I'm just stating facts.
In a press conference with the Bears head coach he was quoted saying " I don't like the Packers" and he backed it up. He backed it up by completely out coaching matt lefluer. And will probably continue that trend moving forward.
In a division where tough , physical football is a MUST to win the North. You can bet your last dollar that the Packers days of winning the North will be a thing of the past. Soft teams coaches by a SOFT COACH spells doom. Resigning Lafluer will only confirm that the decision makers endorse this new style. Works well in September and October. Just don't hold your breath on this version of the GBP of getting a sniff of a SB.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:49 pm

Resonating with your take eb. Furthermore - for someone who publicly declared an "all gas - no brakes" philosophy - LaFleur certainly seemed to have downshifted a lot in the second half of games.

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GreenandBold's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:44 pm

Everybody has a good plan until they get punched in the mouth . Then the Packers give up . LaFleur panics . Teams know how to beat the Packers . Just ramp up the intensity and play physical . Works every time .

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LuvPack's picture

January 15, 2026 at 07:14 pm

Best to prefer a coach with a regular season winning percentage so the Pack is eligible for the playoffs is the best scenario!

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sugarbair's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:10 pm

I quit reading this article halfway thru. Man probably has never watched a football game. Wow!

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:42 pm

The same here...but i didn't even make it halfway

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Packerlifer's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:15 pm

Clearly the offensive and defensive lines and cornerbacks have to be much, much better.

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TarynsEyes's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:16 pm

Change for the sake of change isn't a sound move, but neither is, not changing for the sake of not changing, and some are starting to do the latter by using who is better and available excuse/reason.
When your favorite hamburger isn't cutting it anymore, do you not look elsewhere, knowing what you try might not be the on either, of course you do and did.

I'm looking for something better, even when I'm not unhappy with what I have. I might not make the change, but there's always that new one in my mind, and on my list.

However, if you stay with it, don't cry about it, especially since the tears have been after-season amok over what you believed the favorite.

Could this FO be so poorly run, that they haven't been creating a list of possible betters? Yikes!!!

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stevehj's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:17 pm

I find it hard to believe that there is even talk about firing Matt LaFleur. The Packers are and have been the youngest team in the league and continue to reach the playoffs. That is the result of good coaching. They made the playoffs this year with an incredible number of injuries to key players. That is the result of good coaching. They were even extremely entertaining to watch with a backup quarterback and a coordinator trying to run defense full of backup players. That is the result of good coaching. For those in the fan base to insist on Super Bowls or fire the coaching staff, I would suggest they go root for teams that replace their coaches ever other year, that way they can be happy for a few months once in a while when a new coach is hired and follow a team that always loses.

And let me finish with this little tidbit: How many times over how many years did headcoach Mike Holmgren with quarterback Brett Farve win the super bowl? One out of Seven, is the count. How many super bowls did Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers win? One out of thirteen. What about Mike Sherman and Brett Farve? Zero out of six.

Winning a bunch of Super Bowls is hard without having the best quarterback in the league and being guided by the same coach year after year. I'd like to think Jordan Love is ascending to that position and we need to trust in Matt LaFleur and his coaches to get us there.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:23 pm

Well....it's nice that Matt's cousin came here to visit us.

T Y Steve

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:37 pm

Steve, you obviously don't understand how things work on this site. Posting anything positive or, god forbid, upbeat will get you downvoted into oblivion...the internets version of tarred and feathered.

Let's get with the program Steve. Repeat after me. "Fire everybody after every loss" and, by all means, resort to childish name calling. You'll be a star here. I promise.

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Coldworld's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:48 pm

Or, alternatively, we just do not agree, even with you. I know that’s always been a hard pill to swallow.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 07:46 pm

I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not.

You might still get your wish that LaFleur is out. It'll be interesting how long it will take before you start micro-managing the next HC.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:51 pm

Perfect..now explain how this team lost so many game they had a nice lead going into the second half??…the Bears game a recent debacle…a game where a respected sports writer said that the second half was one of the worst coaching he’s ever seen..

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Packerpasty's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:51 pm

Still waiting…

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 07:05 pm

It was horrible loss. It might cost MLF his job. We'll see.

Aren't you the one who wanted Sean Clifford to be GB's QB moving forward instead of Love? Where is Sean nowadays?

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 07:15 pm

Still waiting

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:21 pm

Is this Packers .com

Articles (authors) written like they want to be hired by the Packers.

SMOOCH
*******
Yes, Carter...you could be the next Wes Hodkiewicz!!

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jlc1's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:22 pm

Here's a thought - MLF is so allergic to firing his awful hires that Policy tells him he has to get rid of Bisaccia and MLF says no which then brings the negotiations to an end and MLF looks for work elsewhere.
Don't tell me I can't dream that Bisaccia can be of value to this franchise..........

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:30 pm

Remember when the B.O.D.'s had to tell Murphy, he had to remove TT as GM?

That was only 2-3 years too late.

TT got so bad, the Board had to step in because Murphy wouldn't do it.

You may remember this a couple years earlier, a question to Murphy about Ted from a reporter..
Murphys response.....
"When Ted wants to retire, he'll tell me" - Mark Murphy

Reality, the Board had to tell Murphy...to do his job!!

RIP Ted...Thanks for the Super Bowl!!!

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jlc1's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:33 pm

Generally though I don't think you are saying that the Board is going to step in here and do the right thing now but rather there is a small chance they might do so sometime in this decade. Do I have that right?

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:50 pm

I'm not saying the Board will do the right thing.
Maybe just the opposite

I'm saying, i'm worried the Board is once again involved in making football operation decisions.

I brought up Murphy, because i was venting...lol.
He broke the chain of command by putting himself in charge and breaking the chain of command Harlan gave Wolf. i e: the power of the GM to run the football team with no interference.

Murphy reversed the bylaws that Harlan changed to put himself (as President) in charge of football operations, not the GM..
I believe the GM should have full authority to run the team.
The same authority given to Wolf by Harlan, to take the B.O.D.'s out of football operational decisions.

I remember all of this like it was yesterday. Going back to Harlan/Wolf in 1991

Football people, should make football decisions.
Not some 65 year old woman on the Packers Board of Directors that owns a local bank.

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Idaho Cheese's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:07 pm

Good point. TT notwithstanding, but the Board seems to want to protect the Frat Bros more than it wants results.

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lou's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:26 pm

I grew up within walking distance of the original City Stadium and actually had a student ticket when they were available and was a rail bird at their practices at both locations and supported the team from the Lombardi years forward including 3 decades of the mediocre teams until Mr. Harlan saved the franchise. During the down years much of the problems were due to how the organization was structured, how the team tried to bring back the glory years by hiring HOF former players as coaches and general managers that consistently missed on draft picks. Our current coach had a solid foundation coming in performed well initially and brought a fresh and innovative approach to offensive football. Like most first time head coaches some of his game day moves were obvious mistakes but I assumed he would grow from them. One example was in the huge and dominating win over the Cowboys in the playoffs he pulled his starters way too soon and we had to scramble to win much like we have seen this season but not because of pulling any starters, but not countering the other teams moves. The net is that the last 3 seasons we continue to regress and his in game decision making continues to have significant flaws. He has had tremendous backing by the organization and enough player resources but he has failed to move the team forward and in games that count the most and has not gotten us a sniff at our 14th World Championship and this season it has been to the point of embarrasment. It is time to thank him and wish him well with his next opportunity.,

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Idaho Cheese's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:04 pm

Thank you for expressing your thoughts. You were exactly the type of fan I wanted to hear from today: a fully vested one! I cannot go back as far as you in my fandom, however, I did join my season-ticket-holding grandfather quite a few times at Country Stadium watching the Packers in the late 70's and 80's. I think you put your finger on exactly what history has shown us (if one bothers to look) and what we can expect moving forward with no changes made, save our Special Teams coach "retiring". This franchise is signaling that there is no accountability attached to poor preparation or poor performance and possibly worse still, there is no expectation that the GM or coaches need to learn from mistakes or take responsibility for their actions. This decision represents what the Board of Directors (Policy) envisions for the future of the Packers; to this end, we can predict the future if we bother to look back at the past. Nothing more than more of the same.
Thank you again for your comments!

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:41 pm

Paragraphs can be your friend Lou. Let them help you. Or actually, help us.

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lou's picture

January 13, 2026 at 09:50 am

Thanks, good advise.

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GreenAndGold_1963's picture

January 12, 2026 at 07:56 pm

Totally agree. Every time I start thinking maybe MLF is progressing and might actually learn something from his past mistakes he lays an egg in a big game. He coached GB to 5 straight losses with the last being a total meltdown in the playoffs due to his scared play calling. He is not a good coach and I don’t want to wait around another 7 years until he develops. It’s time to move on.

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Aldo's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:27 pm

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. That's the Green Bay Packers!

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splitpea1's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:40 pm

Does anyone get the impression that we are being talked down to here? I mean, like giving us permission to be "irrational" and "emotionally charged"? Like maybe once we get our frazzled nerves in order we can start to think clearly again?

Come on, we all saw the Packers games and most of us probably saw the other NFC playoff games as well. The frustration is valid. I think the fans deserve a little more respect than a veiled psychiatric session.

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Seabassmtg's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:43 pm

Time to bring in Jon Gruden.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:44 pm

Good lord, please tell me you're drunk.

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Idaho Cheese's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:48 pm

Green Bay management is signaling that this is not a serious, competitive sports franchise. In their defense, the University ofWisconsin has set that standard and the Packers are more than happy to continue their haven for mediocrity. THis is resembles little of what Ron Wolf set down as guiding principles when he was hired. Gutey has no problems just acting like Ted Thomsen light or entitled to job security ad infinitum due to the proximity to The Ron Wolf Way. The Frat House of Inepitude. I am sure in their calculus of how to move forward, little of what the fans want or deserve was considered, knowing full well we will just accept it all and keep selling out every game and keep chanting Go Pack Go, even though knowing deep down, it all signifies nothing. Gutey gets to go into the draft thinking he is the smartest man in any room; his precious RAS and multi-positional swing roles for everyone! MLF gets to keep coming up with more "illusion of complexity", trying to no avail, to be the smartest head coach in the history of coaching. I know one person who is embracing this news; the barber MLF pays hundreds of dollars weekly kepping his shit looking fly! Gutey and his tailor, too. Hey might not be great football gurus but no matter when they look so coifed! We get to enjoy the fruits of this mentality by drafting a few more above-average players to find their role on an above-average team (maybe a little harsh?) I wonder what the next season of "I wish I had players that could execute the most creative game plan ever" will look like. They are right about one thing: we are used to this.

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PackAttackJack's picture

January 12, 2026 at 08:41 pm

if I could give you ten thumbs up, I would.

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Trapped-in-MN-BUT-GB-fan's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:55 pm

I have an idea. Next time we need to rest someone make it MLF……on game day.

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lou's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:30 pm

We needed some good humor after Saturday night, nice way to make your point, everyone waits for the "inactive list" especially this season.

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GVPacker's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:55 pm

Gute told Mike McCarthy that he couldn't correct the problems with the Special Teams Unit and that was the reason he was being fired, Matt Lafleur hires two consecutive horrible Special Teams (Moe Drayton, Rich B) coaches and It cost the Packers a playoff win, so now Matt Lafleur gets a contract extension? What A Load Of Crap!

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 04:59 pm

Before Harlan changed the bylaws concerning control for Ron Wolf...The BO.D.'s were in charge of Football operations. I kid you not.
They hired the coaches

When Murphy was on his GM search, a reporter asked him, what control the GM would have.
He stated the GM would have full operational control.
Fast forward 10-14 days......
Murphy hired Gute, and told us Gute didn't have full power. He gave Russ Ball more responsibility.
Then he put HIMSELF in charge of all football operations, saying he makes all the final decisions.
And making damn sure, we all knew it.
It was no secret.

He even....had to change the Packer bylaws to do give himself that power, undoing what Harlan did for Wolf.

Now, i don't know about you...
But i think Harlan giving Wolf full control, worked out pretty good, as it did for TT also.
Two Super Bowls.

But Murphy didn't like it, and.....here we are today.

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Houndog's picture

January 13, 2026 at 06:52 am

Since '75, To take that a step further back

Ron Wolf (then with the Raiders) was originally offered the GM job by Judge Robert Parins, Harlan's predecessor, but turned it down due to the management fiasco and pecking order you've already described, the job was given to Tom Braatz.

Harlan, the first real Football Guy, took over when Parins had to retire and within a little over a year went after Wolf, and after reaching an agreement, he fired Braatz over the phone while he was on a scouting trip.

Everybody knows the rest of the story

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NFLfan's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:03 pm

It will take years to untangle this mess-too many mediocre men with their hands out keeping this team status quo

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ricky's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:12 pm

Two people start everything. The GM and the HC. The GM should be finding and drafting players to help the team, and the HC should be in contact with the GM so they work more together to improve the roster. Blaming the assistants for not being good enough falls on LaFleur. He hires them, he sees them working with the players every day, he sees the results on the field. If the team is falling short in any area (or multiple areas) it is up to him to find better assistants.
It has been apparent for several years now that Stenavich is not a good OC. And that Butkus in not a good OL coach. The most recent example would be moving Jenkins to center, where the early word was he would be "all world". It was an abject failure, and only stabilized when Rhyan was put in the position. Add in trying to fit Morgan into multiple slots, rather than finding his natural position and developing him is puzzling.
Right now, this is a team that doesn't believe in itself. Like McCarthy, LaFleur says the right things, but when it comes to crunch time, he folds. And so does the team.
In another response, I called this the "Mike Tomlin Effect": Have a winning record in the regular season, then one and done in the playoffs. It makes for a team that always seems to be in contention, but is just an illusion.

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WorseWisconsin's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:14 pm

"LaFleur is a significant reason Jordan Love has developed into a top-ten, perhaps even top-five, quarterback in the NFL."

1: Top 10...maybe. 8, 9 and 10 spots have these QBs for competition: Goff, Mayfield, Darnold, Love and Purdy. I think the other 4 are better but a case can be made for Love that he's as-good-or-better.

But top 5? No way, you're dreaming.

That said, LaFleur does deserve credit for developing Love.

2: The rants from fans aside, Love was in no way the main reason for the Bears loss. Objectively (FYI, I'm a Bears fan), Love is a good quarterback who occasionally makes elite-level plays and occasionally gets on a hot streak. The Packers can win a superbowl with Love.

However...

3: Love will not be as good as Rodgers or Favre. Statistically I think he could compare well, but Love's elite traits seem to only show up when in the lead or in a blowout. Packers fans need to accept that you're not always going to get top-5 (let alone top-3) performance from the QB spot in perpetuity.

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TarynsEyes's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:47 pm

"Packers fans need to accept that you're not always going to get top-5 (let alone top-3) performance from the QB spot in perpetuity".

Stafford would like to have a word with fans who think Love a top QB based on his stats, as he shows his Lions days stats to you.

I'd simply be happier if Love would actually play like a top 10 QB. Stop letting stats cloud what you see. The box score never tells the whole truth, only a manipulated version that one's mind/ fantasy wants to believe.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 12, 2026 at 07:11 pm

Well, Love, in the Wild Card round, threw for over 320 yards with 4 TDs and 0 interceptions. I'd be interested in knowing how many QBs topped that.

On #2, I suspect you are correct. I'm still processing. Love had a great game but I kept waiting for him to make that "play" that tilts the game for you and it just does not happen. The first year, he was a first year starter. Then the second year, a bad run of injuries happened. This year, he was experienced, healthy, and had most of his starting offense around him. And accomplished Jack Squat during the second half.

On #3, if it's about Super Bowls, Favre and Rodgers aren't very high on the ladder.

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stockholder's picture

January 12, 2026 at 05:41 pm

If you want change you S-U-E.
It's the American way now.
All the way to the Supreme Court.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:22 pm

Injuries Carter?
HOW did we get up 21-3 with so many injured players....Carter?...Riddle me that !!!!
********
Well Carter, i'm waiting.

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Since'75's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:33 pm

Gute and MLF have been in charge 8 and 7 years respectfully.

What have we won?

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Leatherhead's picture

January 12, 2026 at 06:46 pm

I've seen quite a few of our seasons end in an agonizing loss. . I watch special teams coaches get replaced every couple of years, I watch the DC change, I watch the players change, I see the CEO change, and it doesn't get better. We should have won this game, just as surely as we should have won in 2014 or 2011 or 2007 .
This is older than LaFleur, or Gutekunst, or Murphy, or Rodgers.

I think we take another shot with what we have, and try to make us better. We're going to have to improve the offense. Indeed, we're going to have to improve everywhere, because we damn sure aren't ahead of the other teams in our division, especially the Bears. We can improve the offense with better blocking and better QB play. Walker, Wilson, Rhyan , Willis, and Doubs will have to be resigned or replaced. We may have to replace Jenkins. That's 3 guys out of our starting offensive line,.

Personally, I'd keep Rhyan. We already have enough replacing to do.

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pantz_bURp's picture

January 12, 2026 at 07:08 pm

What would be cool if CHTV had a way to allow us to throw a challenge flag (similar to an up vote/down vote) at a fellow poster's comment and then offer a rebuttal. You only are allowed two challenges a day.

I have enjoyed reading both sides of the discussion to either sign Coach LaF to an extension vs move on from Coach LaF, this next season or now.

I have my preference which is basically leaning on culture of the team, identity of the team and the lack of finishing strong. I don't know if this is the new culture in the NFL to make business decisions that put you before the team at times. I then see teams that seem committed to their assignments and all out effort to the whistle. Maybe all are trying or willing to give max effort but some are unsure of their assignment so it appears lacking. I dont know...

Losing sucks no matter what. It is easier for me to accept defeat if we go all out and get beat by a better team. The ways in which the Packers find beating themselves has gotten really hard to accept.

However it plays out, I will be excited about the new season and it's possibilities. It seems like yesterday watching the Draft in Green Bay...that was fun.

Slowly getting tired of the NFL money grab, but that is for another day to burn my energy on.

Pantz

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FumundaStank's picture

January 12, 2026 at 09:26 pm

What surprises me most in all these discussions is hardly anyone is talking about Gute. He is as responsible for what is happening on the field as MLF. I know most Packer fans want to think the players are the best at all positions. I got news for you, they certainly are not. Yes, MLF's coaching decisions can be mind numbing. But he also doesn't have to many all pros to work with. Gute needs to be under as much scrutiny as MLF, if not more.

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Pack204's picture

January 12, 2026 at 10:57 pm

MLF is a great OC but below average head coach. Situational football as Bill Belicheck calls it is awful on this team. Delay of game out of a timeout? Absolutely inexcusable. That timeout was needed down the stretch and it was WASTED. Those mistakes cost you football games and they cant happen in the playoffs with a veteran coach and qb. That play is just a microcosm of this football team over the years. It will be more of the same next year. This team isnt tough they will continue to lose close games, and thats fine, not sure anything out there is better at the moment. But for now the window is closed as long as MLF is the head of trying to create a tough resilient culture in that locker room.

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DONALD SALAMON's picture

January 13, 2026 at 06:25 am

And what is the definition of insanity, you might ask? Doing the same thing over and over...and expecting different results. Unfortunately, if the Packers extend LaFRAUD, then the organization has to be insane. This guy is what he is...a good game planner for the first half who is terrible at in-game management and makes poor game decisions to the point that the team falls apart. If we had a decent in-game offensive coordinator then we could let LaFRAUD draw up the game plan and then he can go sit in the stands with his hair stylist.

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Lphill's picture

January 13, 2026 at 06:44 am

if MLF stays, make Nathanial Hackett OC let him call plays, need a new Special Teams coordinator , we have to wait and see on Hafley .

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