Concur GregC. Elgersma led drives that resulted in 16 points (two TDs, a missed PAT and one field goal) and looked pretty good doing it. Yes, he got bailed out of a bad interception by a Colts penalty but otherwise was solid and looked better throwing the ball than Clifford did.

I thought his pocket awareness could have been better; that sack was on him. Otherwise, i agree: Elgersma is better than Clifford, who is limited by his noodle arm.

Agreed. Elgersma has a live arm. He also showed some touch which was surprising. Clifford has the experience advantage but that’s all. Clifford has reached his ceiling while Elgersma has more growth ahead of him. I suspect Elgersma will be the PS QB.

If they're holding and in one case a facemask(?), did they at least keep the QBs clean? Usually when you're getting penalties on the O-line (even false starts) it's an indication you're getting beat. I haven't been able to watch the game yet.

This is typical pre-season football. There is no game plan, and players are being rotated in and out of the lineup at a high rate. Preseason is not a tune-up for the starters. It is a proving ground for the backups.

In my impression the sloppiness has almost entirely been restricted to the offense and particularly apparent on the OL. Of course that’s LaFleur’s responsibility ultimately, but it’s time to stop ignoring Stenavich and Butkus in this. I can’t criticize the WRs for excessive drops this week.

The problem here is persistent and hard to credit simply to attitude or culture stemming from HC level. LaFleur doesn’t handle detailed preparation of players or units. Such details come from his coaches. Whatever deficiencies in his cultural leadership may exist, there are clearly also problems at the OC and positional level.

The choice to promote Stenavich and retain him and Butkus has coincided with these issues being persistently visible. The problem is not one man deep but it all ultimately goes back to different questions of HC competence. If it isn’t convincingly vanquished through performance this year, I think the writing will be on the wall for the LaFleur era.

Absolutely. Unlike many past years there's a lot of serious competition in the division now and being lackadaisical to start the season is not going to cut it, this year especially. Very nervous how they open up at home.

Lloyd, since draft day, has now had what 7, 8 injuries that have cost him time practicing on the field or in games. Several have been hamstrings, soft tissue issues.

Dang...sure does tease some great RB skills. But of all positions, being made of glass is quite problematic for RB in the LaFleur run heavy IOC offense.

I will not be surprised if Lloyd again begins the season PUP or IR. Sigh.

The difference is that Lloyd is playing on a rookie contract, so there are no big financial implications. Having him take away practice time from other RBs is a small price to pay for keeping him around, especially because they already have two other good backup RBs. Might as well just forge ahead, at least for now. If he plays, he plays, and if he doesn't, he doesn't.

Unfair to compare Alexander to Lloyd. Lloyd can’t see the field and Alexander was a 2 time all-pro who got hit with injuries during his second contract.

You've forgotten that Ja had multiple great seasons.

I think the comparison to Lloyd might be Alex Green, another RB we took in the 3rd round about 15 years ago. He couldn't stay healthy, played almost no snaps as a rookie and was limited to 4 games as a second year guy.

Then he was released and played one more season for the Jets. So far, Lloyd is on a similar path.

Truly, I'm hoping we IR Lloyd and he competes next year for the vacancy that will be created when Wilson becomes a FA. I think it's his best shot with the team, and it's the team's best chance to get him on the field.

I agree with your assessment of Elgersma.

McNamee has a hook in his kicks which reminds me of Carlson and Narveson. If he can get rid of that hooking tendency, he may do well. I don’t see Green Bay keeping him. They might get another kicker or bring Hale back to the PS using the international exemption.

QB3 position battle may come down to: if JL10 and Malik are both down and out at the same time does GB put a fork in it? If so Elgersma's obviously higher upside potential makes sense. If they plan to fight through it anyway, Clifford's experience and familiarity with the system might be what they choose? Still want to keep Elgersma in the building as a developmental prospect though, and I'm not sure how you do that ...

Simmons is who he always was. A great athlete and if football was played in shorts with no pads or hitting he might be a HOF caliber player, but when the hitting starts for real he goes away. He could never shed a block and is soft at the point of attack. No problem kicking the tires on him but I was never expecting much.

Agree on all points. Morgan playing well is very good news. Even if he doesn't get the starting job, it's comforting we know we have a smooth transition plan in place.

I think the Packers and many fans, including myself, thought they found a castaway with untapped potential with Simmons. But he just hasn't shown much so far and has been awful in coverage. So much for the plan of developing him at LB and not deploying him in other places (where we already have plenty of versatility). Sticking with Hopper seems to be the better bet here.

Agreed on Jordan Morgan. I don't think there's real competition for LT, nor should there be. Rasheed has been reliably good if not great. Morgan's one bad play put JL10 in the hospital. It makes too much sense to rely on Rasheed for the rest of his rookie contract, and prepare Morgan to be the starter in his third year; his footwork is good, his hands are improving. Give him at least some snaps this season, even if only in garbage time.

He's not. Hopefully Morgan is ready to be our starting LT in 2026, saving us the $20MM-ish Rasheed will command, from somebody.

I can think of quite a few 7th rounders who were hard to beat out, including Tauscher and Driver. Never underestimate the value of a few years of experience.