Well you clearly point out the options and the associated pitfalls. That decision and the consequences of making it will fall clearly on Gute and Ball who are being paid the big bucks to make it and be correct. I'm just a plain old Packers fan and anything I say is like whistling in the wind; in other words it's way above my pay grade.

I will say this: The Giants loved the play of Daniel Jones and gave him a big contract only to have him regress badly after a good start. I don't really expect this with Jordan Love, but it's something that should be taken into consideration by the big brass as they make the decision. As I said earlier, that is why they are paid the big bucks to make those decisions and will have to live with the consequences. As a fan, I sure hope they make the correct one and also hope we have a potential third Hall of Fame in the making with Love.

I would make him the highest paid QB in the "division".
plus incentives.
MVP,Super-bowl, Division champs etc.

Lock him up. He has the potential to be better than some of the QBs on that list. LOL, I'm pretty confident we won't have to worry about him turning into Daniel Jones!

The biggest risk would be to give him a lowball offer or no offer at all. Then they would risk losing him altogether. So I think the offer should and will be in the $45 million to $50 million range. Note how young the top two QBs on the list are. Burrow is 27 and Herbert is 25. Love is also 25.

Couple of things jump out at me.

1. Love will likely get more then Stafford, less then Mahomes (I could be wrong)

2. Holy Shit. Mahomes is an effing steal at 45 Mil a year. Dude maybe just over a week away from 3 rings in 4 tries. Out pacing Brady.

The problem with these numbers what arw the guaranteed numbers those are what really matter.

If you low ball him not good but he hasnt proven he is a top 5 quarterback yet.

If were just lookung at averages like above I would say between russell wilson average and kyler murray average .

Depends if he wants to bet on himself or take the generational wealth right now.

Think Davante Adams last contract with the packers

1. Gotta have a franchise QB
2. Gotta pay that franchise QB
3. Once you pay that franchise QB, it’s tough to continue to build around him
4. This whole thing would be easier if Love could marry a supermodel
5. Anybody know any single supermodels? Send her a friendship bracelet and tell her it’s from Jordan

Sorry Ken, but I couldn't disagree more.
You stated "It all makes for fascinating drama this spring." I say BS!
This isn't fascinating to me, it's haunting.
It puts us right back where we were multiple times over the past 10 years which culminated in having the highest paid (arguably most talented) most pretentious, self-centered prick for a team leader imaginable.
This does not fascinate me, it makes my blood boil.
JL10 is good, could become very good. Some great throws and decisions on tape.
He's also young and very inexperienced.
Many poor throws and bad decisions on tape as well.
He has yet to walk on water. I prefer we wait until he proves he can do it before we anoint him as the savior.
See the list, especially Daniel Jones. Cap hell for the giants.
There's a whole bunch of other really good football players on this TEAM. Let's keep the team intact, working toward the goal of constant improvement and team success.
No more prima donnas please.
Save money for major depth upgrades and extensions, when earned, for trench talent.
$50+ million per year? I'd spend the money elsewhere and get a game manager at QB.
GPG!

As I have stated here, countless times, my concerns around this contract are huge. Top 10 money for a guy who is effectively played excellent for eight games isn’t enough of a sample size in my opinion. It could turn out to be a great contract. It could also turn out to be Kyler Murray.. I wish they were working on the extension about midway through next season rather than now. I understand why they want this player signed I get it. I’m just concerned that he could as likely have a fall off next year as he could build on it and be great. if he falls off and becomes 10 to 15 or 10 to 20 ranked quarterback next season, it’s a bad contract. This is my biggest concern going into the off-season.

Big numbers make my head hurt.

This is a link to the QB contracts for this past season.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/quarterback/

Burrow makes $55M/year. He's gone to a Super Bowl
Herbert and Jackson make over $50M, and have not.
Hurts has, and Russell Wilson has, but Kyler Murray and DeShawn Watson have been stealing money.

Then you have Mahomes and Josh Allen. That's everybody making over $40M. How many of them ARE top QBs? Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins both made over $35M for not very much at all last year.

I think Love is a bargain on a 5 year, $50 year deal. We'll probably have to go higher than that. I'd also start the search for his successor, because the Packers have shown they can draft a QB when they don't need one and develop him. I think that's the only way to avoid ending up with a 30+ year old QB who is a huge drain on your cap.

We held onto Favre, and Rodgers, for 10 years AFTER their last Super Bowl appearance. I'm wondering if there's a better way of doing this.

Hope they can convince him, to leave some money on the table, to build the SB team around him. This and a backloaded deal with high incentives would keep a 2 or 3 year window open. Rings build legacy, not $$$.

Insiders at 1265 are reporting that Russ Ball has upgraded to the Microsoft 365 version of Excel for Love's contract process. They're noting Ball's willing to go to the maximum on void years, and is seriously considering pushing, rolling, and perhaps even sliding the can down the road to make this work. Unnamed sources are saying Ball has a supply of midnight oil, and has been seen and heard thinking outside the box. The mantra within the facility reportedly is "Worry not, we're not idiots."

What is Jordan Love worth? Assigning a specific value to a human being is a complex and subjective matter that involves ethical, moral, and philosophical considerations. In economic terms, the value of an individual may be assessed based on their contributions to society, skills, and talents, but reducing a person's worth solely to economic productivity neglects the broader aspects of human existence. IMHO, those who paid Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson need to check-in to a darkness retreat and stay there, or be shot into the sun.

I am calling it as $51m per year on average, maybe 52.

Daniel Jones salary is everything wrong with sports dear lord

First off, I'd be really happy if could leave out the void years or any other cap land mines that would complicate efforts to sustain a wining team in future years.

Second, about Love, we know he's good. He has flashed the potential to be very good. No, he's shown better than that; he sustained top level performance steadily throughout the second half of the season.

All of that gets the GM to the table happy to work toward agreement.

And all of that in today's NFL gets a pretty good contract-- not top money, not $50 mill, but way up there. $40 million?

And what if that potential comes through? What if he delivers exactly as he expects to and as we all hope?

Then pay him what an elite QB gets-- incentive based bonuses, escalators, and all that to run him right up the top of that list.

GB must pay the man what he's worth right now and in years to come. A nice five year deal with enough guaranteed money to please him.

"If you don’t have a franchise signal caller, you have no chance."

Brock Purdy says hi. The outlier? Maybe.
Tell that to Lamar and Dak.

Knowing what kind of contracts Ball is giving to players who are very good, but not among absolute top at their position or game changers (Alexander, Gary, Clark) I suspect he will make Jordan the highest paid QB. I think Jordan probably deserves to be among top 12 paid QBSs and I am glad that he played so very well, but in crucial moments, like 4th quarter vs 49 ers and some others he also made some head schraching throws to well covered receivers and too many throws of backfoot. He has all chances to improve on that but I think contract also must reflect on those deficiencies

There must be a way for Green Bay to ask for a larger sample size before they sell the farm?
Both sides seem to be operating from good faith.

could we possible think... and act... outside the box a little bit?

The restrictions and pitfalls of a huge salary for one player on an NFL team are placed there by the NFLPA, owners and the salary cap which BOTH sides agreed to.

In a TEAM sport, making teammates compete for the same dollar is counter productive to TEAM success.

Some want Love to take a cap friendly deal so the TEAM can be vrought along with him as winners in a TEAM sport, I do too.

How about this?

If Love were to take a team and cap friendly deal, leaving some salary cap dollars on the table, could the Packers agree to clauses like:
1 - no more than X% unspent cap rolled over into the next season (a common occurrence, something like 2-4%
2 - Team spending including rollover at 100% cap allowance - players getting paid to stay and build, not being siphoned off due to one high salary.
3 - Love getting a % of the cap that places him no less than top 15 in the league
4 - bonus dollars for TEAM goal achievement like division crowns, NFC championships and Super Bowl wins. NOT MVP's or Statistical leadership.

That would leave dollars on the cap that the Packers MUST spend in support of the TEAM and Love's success.

Without a guarantee that the team will spend any "team discount" from Love on talent that will actually HELP Love, why would he leave any crumbs behind?

Why leave any crumbs at all? In order to actually have a chance to WIN in a TEAM sport.

A key to winning in a TEAM sport is sacrifice. In the NFL it is unheard of for a player to sacrifice any money, but many, many highly paid players do indeed lose.

The marketplace will decide what Love is paid. That means he'll probably end up in the area of $45-55 million per year. But what is more important is how the contract is structured. Will it be more team friendly? Would it make sense to front load it heavily, so when the guys who are under rookie contracts now come due, there will be room to sign them? The team does need to upgrade at some positions, and hopefully they can do that through the draft, rather than sign overpriced free agents.

There is no reason for the Packers to rush into a deal with Love this offseason. He has a contract for 2024. I would wait and see how he performs for at least the first half of the 2024 season. He has started 20 games for the Packers up to this point. 1 in 2022 and 19 in 2023.

Let's see where he is at after 8-9 more games in 2024. Before committing large cap numbers let's make sure that he does not regress in 2024. If Clements does not return in 2024 Love could regress.

The Packers should not be in a rush to return to the point where they can't sign FAs to build a contending team around Love. At least not yet. Thanks, Since '61