Time for some changes, indeed, but whatever we do, let's not give up on this season.
We're still 3-3, with 11 games left, and with a lot of talent -- so let's still shoot for the playoffs, whoever is playing, whoever is coaching.
Urgency, but no panic!

I'd take a six-pack of Spotted C... hell, make it Falstaff or Coors LIght - for him.

As for the 80s Packers, as you may remember, they generally had a good offense, unlike this team.

You got what you wanted. Ohh how great the defensive picks were and they they are going to be elite. Ignorance is bliss.

An interior O-line that is bad, not one receiver that can beat man coverage, an aging QB1 that looks old, and a defense that can't hold an edge and can't tackle a running back. And then we can talk about the coaching staff......

It is going to be a long season Bearmeat. Gute definitely should have taken Denver's offer for Rodgers.........

A bit irrational... Packers been great many years. No GM is going to pass on a quarterback that won the MVP 2 years in a row. Roger's still out played Brady 2 years ago. The weather ruined the championship game last year. Few more lucky bounces in Packers favor they be in the superbowls. Packers had to go in this season w Rogers. NFC is still wide open.

I want two fifths and a case of miller

Give them 1980s uniforms. That’s more realistic

We are stuck with the 50s uniforms for several more years contractually.. the are appropriate as this unit plays like a Scooter MacLean team.

I hear Minnesota is accepting band wagoneers. The door is that way.

Go Pack.

We may need to avert our gaze from the Packers, we may even need a small vacation from the Packers, but let's not stop fighting for the Packers.
There's still time to turn the season around, if there's truly the will to turn the season around.

They never had the will to fight. They even tried to give back the bears game🤢 they are not well coached. ML has no idea how to pull them out of this. He kept Kevin king on the roster, and wouldn’t fire Drayton until they lost the season

He stands on the sidelines with that "poopy in my pants" look from start to finish.

He is a coach who has never won a game Rodgers wouldn’t have. Out coached again. He has no strategy for the rookies we are now just playing Lazard ball. Bankrupt. As long as LaFleur is here it will not improve. It’s team wide under performance by coaches and most players and a QB still refusing to face reality.

Just listening to him, he’s got no answers or ideas and no control.

You must be too young to remember Dan Devine.

You must

You must be young; I've seen FAR WORSE Packers teams. But this one seems to be doing the least with the most of any team in the last 50+ years.

Worst you’ve EVER seen?

I don't think he has the power. He gives Barry the boot it's telling gutt you picked the wrong dude. He knows who writes his checks. Le flower is a lousy coach who inherited a great qb.

"Not a single solitary good thing."

I beg to differ... I think this week, well probably last week, was the beginning of securing a top 10 draft pick...Hell, maybe top 5.

Love this. Tree found!

The Green Bay Sonny Bono's?

This is what happens when your head coach is clueless

"I OWN YOU!"

Oh, wait, wrong team.

Never mind.

"Packers should have traded Rodgers after back to back MVP seasons. "

As Bearmeat, Coldworld and others would say: "No shit." An absolutely abysmal display of fiduciary responsibility by Murphy. He shouldn't only be fired, he should be fired, stripped of any pension, tarred, feathered, and run out of Green Bay - hell, out of Wisconsin - on a rail. His tenure with the team should be reduced to a "We don't talk about this asshole becuase he fucked over the team for at least five years." plaque in the Packers HOF.

And abso-fucking-lutely nothing will bad will happen to him. Failure without consequences; a hallmark of modern executive life.

I do not believe that any other team wanted to mortgage their future for a 38 year old QB. The Packers were never offered anything for him, that they were will to accept. They were stuck with him.

I'm just glad the Royce Newman and Jake Hanson experiments have ended. Get Tom out there, he can't be any worse.

Butkus looks like a disaster. Not one OL was good. Part of that is the risible threat from our passing game, but they aren’t playing well or as a unit.

Stenavich appears to be no more impress as an OC. The coaches are looking like a sub par group in the image of their leader.

It’s just time to stop it. The rot is deep. Continue with Rodgers or not, but LaFleur should be gone before next week if there is to be any hope of turning this around. Honestly I think the coaching staff is largely too diluted, but it’s worth a try. It starts with recognizing that we need a whole new attitude on O. Rodgers can chose to get on board or not, but it’s a move that is desperately needed.

With all their injuries, this segmented squad has never been in synch and Rodgers missed a couple of practices. Rhyan was drafted to be a bruiser inside ,but has not been sniffed. Some of the deadwood should be moved by the trade deadline. I do not see Leadership.

Completely agree about Jenkins going back to LG. let Nijman play RT and learn on the fly. Maybe give Tom a look at RG.. not sure Runyan has played well enough to remain on the field but Newman definitely shouldn't be out there.

truth spoken!! I say one more year and it will be new coach time....wish they'd can him tomorrow though...never did like the choice, everyone wanted to be like the Rams at the time he was hired...

I’d only add.. again

It's mostly up to Aaron Rodgers to be a leader and turn things around.
If he won't, then it's up to . . . whoever is in charge of the Packers to sit Rodgers and play Jordan Love.

Well, at least maybe we'll get a top 10 draft choice...

I'd keep Gute, because I think he's done a good job within the parameters he's had dictated to him. But Murply MUST GO NOW. And let Gute hire MLF's replacement.

Gutekunst has been working on a true rebuild ever since.

Someone pulled the carpet out on him though, and dictated we re-sign Rodgers. Now a lot of the rebuild pieces will end up seeing the free market.

Sure wish Gutekunst had done something to improve the WR position.

Gutey drafts haven't been great last few years but his Free Agency acquisition has been covering it up all this while.
Most of his Rd1's turned out to be just avg except for Ja and Gary rest all have been playing okish. He neglected the Wr and TE group too long.

Agreed. LaFleur’s incompetence has led to a light weight coaching staff just as much as his tactical naivety has been repeatedly exposed.

As to Gute, this team may be good in a couple of years. To be good this year, incorporating rookies was obviously essential from day one of the off season if we were to have a chance. We did nothing, and play as if we were the team last year.

This isn’t the first game, it’s just accelerating as teams figure out they can have their way with our O. Thus won’t stop with this coach. We could be a lot better with this roster. At this point, the only hope is a swift and decisive change at the top.

Good news for you PackfanNY along with me and all the other Pack fans in the area. The team has played their way off any discretionary national broadcasts. We have finished our two NY games. So we have just a few, I hope maybe as few as two, games when we might have this god awful football team broadcast in our area.
They are so soft. Soft like McCarthy team soft. The O got punched in the mouth the first two drives and cowered from there on out. The D got punched in the mouth early in the 3rd quarter and waved the white flag.

Players are not this bad. They didn't decline this far overnight , well maybe ARod buts It's the coaching and what they and Rodgers does with them.

Good stuff, Oppy,
Instead of throwing in the towel, let's try some things that are new.

We could go with Love and maybe he’d use what tools he has. Maybe that wins us 5. If they keep this up I don’t think they get close to that. Cobb, Lazard and the odd Doubs are not getting it done. Lazard and Doubs won’t. No WR coming in will change things that much.

Rodgers speaking—most worried about “wobbling” by teammates. Letting the cat out of the bag that all us not well. He’s also seemingly criticizing LaFleur and the coaches by calling in them to simplify everything.

Ok then Oppy, what games on the schedule get this team to that record?

I'm not sure how they will do. But I sure would like to know what their offensive and defensive identity is. I see nothing that tells me what they are doing other doing the same things all the time that don't work. Seem to have offensive plays that don't ever change and are easily anticipated by the other teams. The defense seems to have only 2 or 3 players who know what they are doing and generally most of the defense doesn't speak the same language. Cause-players? Coaches? Front Office?
Yes to all three.
I'll still cheer for them no matter what but will have my hopes so much lower. GPG.

My take is Rodgers will get some ailment and not play against the better teams coming up. Dallas, eagles, bills will eat this team alive.

Guess the exciting part will be guessing which game that we actually show up for. Got to figure it is possible that they will at least once this year. Hmmm,. Which One?

Bakh wasn’t great. They can’t run left at all either.

Or, I dunno, don't hold the ball forever.

Easy, Braveheart.