Aaron Jones Agrees To A Reworked Deal To Stay With the Packers

Jones is under contract with Green Bay through 2024

Running back Aaron Jones is staying in Green Bay for the 2023 season. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Pro Bowler agreed to a contract restructure that includes a $ 5 million pay cut. By lowering his 2023 earnings, Jones also allowed the Packers to touch the structure of his deal. From the $ 11 million he is going to make this season, $ 8.52 million are in the form of a signing bonus, which means it will be prorated through multiple seasons — probably five, if the Packers included void years to lower this year's cap hit.

That means the Packers freed up almost $ 12 million in cap space — Jones' cap hit is down from $ 20.02 million to $ 8.2 million.

"In this league, you can't have just one [running back]. Obviously, having AJ [Dillon], it's nice to have that one-two punch," Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst mentioned last month. "Aaron, when we got first here, you're thinking, 'Hey, this probably won't last long because the way he's built and his size,' and he just keeps on defying the odds."

According to Over The Cap, the Packers were projected to be $ 16.48 million over the cap in 2023. After adjusting Aaron Jones' deal, the number goes down to something around $ 4.5 million. There's still work to do until the new league year starts on March 15, but this move gives the Packers more flexibility to operate.

Aaron Jones was a fifth-round pick back in 2017, the last Packers draft led by Ted Thompson. Two years ago, he agreed to a 4-year, $ 48 million extension with the Packers. Since then, he is the second-highest paid running back in the league in cash earnings, after Christian McCaffrey. Jones finished last season with his 1,121 rushing yards, the best number of his NFL career. He's had 5,284 rushing yards for the Packers, third in franchise history, only behind Ahman Green and Jim Taylor.

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HawkPacker's picture

February 17, 2023 at 08:57 am

Great news Packer fans. This really helps our Cap.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:38 pm

Not to mention the roster!

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:04 am

I love #33, thank you! Wondering, does anyone feel this info plays into #12 staying or leaving now? Trying not to take away the news on #33, just trying to figure out in relation to #12 staying or going or if this reworked deal is a stand alone.

*It was really nice to see him nominated for the Walter Payton Man on the Year...saw him on tv a couple times before the Super Bowl kicked off.

Thanks

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HarryHodag's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:11 am

Rodgers is likely gone any way you slice it.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:12 am

Thanks Hodag.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:25 am

I don’t think it says much. The alternative was a parting if the ways. Jones was our best offensive piece over the season. He helps whoever is QB.

He’s young enough (just 28) and has few enough career Carries that it’s plausible that he will still have value in 3 years, when our new crop of skill players should be at or approaching their peaks. Obviously he would help Rodgers, if he stays, but equally he could be a help to Love or any successor next year and for long enough after.

Thus if Love does play well, he can realistically be part of any resulting reascension to contention. As such, I think it leaves options open, based on the outline description. I think that’s why it could get done now, before other decisions are made.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:34 am

Okay, thanks Cold. I appreciate your opinion and have to tell you, you have been consistent from day 1 mentioning to the fact something like, the plan doesn't make sense (without bashing players), you simply have stated that the plan, roster as it stands...don't fit. I maybe wrong, but that seems to be the gist of it.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:52 am

Rodgers plus this roster plus this cap makes no sense has been my position for a long time.

Jones I was in the fence about. He’s a distinct talent, he’s expensive, he’s close to the cusp age wise of being around in 3 years or so when I think we next have a chance, but I think he’s just on the right side given his low carry numbers.

He is good to have whomever is at QB, great character and him agreeing to a cut tips it over for me, subject to details at least. Certainly I will enjoy watching him. I don’t think we get better at RB no matter whom we draft this year or next.

The test will come with what they do with older players with seeming successors and ones that were or are not good enough to justify paying and not trying to get better as well as cheaper. Hanging on to everyone would be very damaging to our future cap, prevent young players emerging and thus ability to build a roster around our QB and potential stars like Watson and Jaire/Gary in their prime.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:38 pm

Agreed that this move and Jones' decision does not signal much of anything as to what will happen with AR.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:44 pm

Per usual, much appreciated TGR...

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:42 pm

TGR. This restructure was a no brainer for the Packers. They could have Brett Hundley as their QB and Jones would have been back :)

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:40 pm

There was no chance they were moving on from Jones. His dead cap hit would have been almost 20M. Trading him would have only knocked a couple million off that hit. He had a fantastic season so it was a no brainer restructure. No doubt that restructure was baked into the original contract, Gute knew that when he spoke about Jones at his last Q&A.

It does appear Jones took a 5M pay cut making very likely he is here for at least two more years. That should tell us all how much it means to him to be a Packer. I love Aaron Jones, he is by far my favorite player. Completely a class act and a hell of a football player.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 03:07 pm

Holy schnikeeze, we agree on something Maine. :)
Hope you have a good weekend in the land of toothpicks and wild blueberries. Beautiful country.

I loved Cadillac Mtn (?) In Acadia National Park.

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 03:31 pm

Other than AR, we have lots in common BM . You musta been that crazy bastard I ran into at Cadillac a few years ago :)

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:01 pm

I appreciate your energy Maine, you got it in spades my friend! 👍

*It was great seeing you in men's clothes again! ;)

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:40 pm

LMAO. Priceless :)

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:39 pm

No, the guys #12 is concerned about are probably D. Bakh, Cobb, Lazard, Lewis, maybe Tonyon.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 17, 2023 at 07:28 pm

No, the guys #12 is concerned about are probably D. Bakh, Cobb, Lazard, Lewis, maybe Tonyon.

Yes, No, Yes, No, maybe...

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 18, 2023 at 06:46 am

The "Guy" #12 is concerned with is #12...

Think we all know that by now.

(Which makes him just like all the rest of us.)

I can't imagine too many CHTV members are sitting drinking their coffee right now worried if BDU can pay his bills... ;P

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murf7777's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:41 pm

The reality is nobody knows what Arod will do, except maybe the FO have had some talks with him that is not shared to the public.

I think keeping Jones with a 5M cut is a great deal for the Packers. The Packers were ready to make the tough decision to cut him out of salary cap savings. Don't see it as anything associated with Rodgers. I think it will be a good move for both sides. More tough decisions to forth coming.

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Rarescope's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:20 pm

Good god man, why did you have to ask? Just when I was starting to like you :D

R.E.L.A.X and enjoy the beautiful mystery - we'll know when we know.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:40 pm

So I did a no - no, wanting to know.

Well done, Rare... 😁

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HarryHodag's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:08 am

As much as this appears to be good news(I like Aaron Jones as a player and a citizen) it's time to toss out a word of caution. The 'spread the cap hit out' is bad news long term. A former player on one of the talk shows says the Saints have done this for years(Russ Ball worked there) and now it's coming back to haunt them. They have zero flexibility with a bunch of contracts still holding them down.

The Packers aren't far from there.

Running backs, good running backs, can be found. If you remember, Jones was a fifth-round pick.

At some point the Band-Aid has to come off and it's better sooner than later. This post won't be popular but reality needs to also be part of the mix.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:16 am

If you get a chance HarryH, take a look at Rossonero's post on the 3 Lessons article this morning. Rather eye opening to me.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:27 am

I did read it and agree with most of it. But a year from now I suspect this team won't be much different(they've gone in reverse since last year) and then everything will be a little worse for the future.

I have no complaints with Jones at all. What I have problems with is a process that appears to be short sighted.

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dobber's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:20 am

As you imply, we'll have to see what the final structure of the deal is, but he's a great fit for this offense as evidenced by his production--especially in games people target as games that fit what LaFleur was selling when he was hired. He should have tread left on his tires.

The common thread seems to be yours: "Running backs, good running backs, can be found. If you remember, Jones was a fifth-round pick." But how many of those later round backs DON'T make it, and many of those later round backs--where they can run or have impressive college numbers--have significant flaws, many in pass pro or pass catching. We lose sight of the fact that Jones struggled to get on the field early but improved his pass pro to get on the field--which is a hard sell on rookies.

In the end, I think retaining 33 is an important piece regardless of whether 12 or 10 is under center--Love will need playmakers around him early who can make things happen and be a focal point of DCs. This doesn't prevent the Packers from drafting a back (I think they will), and might signal a plan to move on from Dillon if he struggles again in 2023.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:24 am

How about Bijon Robinson #1?

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dobber's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:31 am

I would say: many people here would lose their shit if the Packers drafted a RB #1 after retaining Jones.

I would also say: it depends on how much draft capital the Packers have and in what rounds. If they make moves that create more day 1/2 picks, taking a shot at a guy they think might be a game-breaker but at a more secondary position in round 1 might be something they do.

We know what the draftniks think of Robinson, but what do the GMs think of him?

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murf7777's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:44 pm

There are far more positions of need and as you stated you can get very good RB's later in the draft. Retaining Jones, makes the position even less of a need. In addition, it is one position that can have an immediate impact as a rookie. So, no need to draft one this year, unless it's a late flyer pick.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:28 am

They won’t pay 2 running backs significantly. So I think the odds are that they will move unless Dillon blows us away this year or signs for below market to stay. That does depend on what they really think of Goodson and Taylor, but I’d expect a day 3 anyway. No need to go high. We are set at starter this year and Jones will be back next now.

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T7Steve's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:51 am

It's early yet and I like Jones. Do you think this could be a sign and trade type deal? By lowering his cap hit it makes it much more attractive to other teams (I hope not).

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:27 am

Possible but Jones could have done that with any suitor. Him giving up salary suggests a desire to make it work here.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:29 am

It certainly gives the Packers more options. Whether AR or JL is under center it is nice to have veteran leadership and guys you can count on to do their jobs. If we do trade AR, it would be a luxury to have 33 in the backfield for Jordan to lean on.

I do think we will draft a RB this Spring and having 33 in the RB Room will surely get a rookie up to speed faster than not having 33 in the room.

If AR12 comes out of the darkness and decides he wants to play for the Packers, I can't imagine him doing so without 33. If he decides to retire or would like a trade, then I think trading 33 might be a real possibility too, IDK. Maybe a trade right before the trade deadline...

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dobber's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:30 am

They significantly increased his dead money if cut or traded early this off-season, though. After Jun 1, it looks like it's about a wash.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:12 pm

No, almost certainly (okay, probably) not.

The trade would have to be a very sweet one to entice GB. Jones goes for $2.48M cash and cap to an acquiring team, or over two seasons, $14.48M cash and cap hits. Is Jones worth a 2nd round pick to the right acquiring team? And even then it matters to me if it is a pick in the 30s or the low 40s versus the late 50s.

From GB's standpoint, the pick is an obvious benefit but they end up with just $2.48M in cap savings instead of $11.8M, meaning that Baal would have to find most of the difference ($9.33M) elsewhere. What they think of Taylor seems pretty obvious. What they think of Goodson less so. I'd imagine GB would use draft a running back in the 2nd to 4th rounds if they traded Jones.

I don't think Jones would garner a nice second round pick. He is clearly a 2nd tier pass receiving back. I wrote an article on it a couple of years ago. His 5.5 yards per target is not in LeVeon Bell or Austin Ekeler territory. As a rusher, he is very good, though he does lack breakaway speed, and he probably isn't a bell cow. He fumbles a bit more than one would like, and in some important situations.

The move makes it somewhat easier to trade Bakh.

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 03:59 pm

TGR, I started to respond but saw your post, which is spot on. Curious to know why this move makes it easier to trade Bahk?

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murf7777's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:46 pm

Interesting thought.....you just don't see a lot of trading in the NFL thou. It seems to be on an uptick, but nothing close to other sports.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:21 am

And Dillion won't!

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:30 am

"In the end, I think retaining 33 is an important piece regardless of whether 12 or 10 is under center--Love will need playmakers around him early who can make things happen and be a focal point of DCs. This doesn't prevent the Packers from drafting a back (I think they will), and might signal a plan to move on from Dillon if he struggles again in 2023."

I agree, Jones is just as important if Love is under center as AR. If they do draft a back I see them looking in the later rounds for a back with upside, but needs time to develop. That should free up focusing early on need/BPA.

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dobber's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:33 am

Agreed. Gute's MO has always been to try to cover roster holes in some way so he can have a free hand during the draft. The Watkins signing turned out to be pretty weak sauce, but other signings in the past have helped. I think he'll do something to create some TE options, yet, too.

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:51 am

Good point. I imagine Gute wants to see if AR is back before making any TE decisions.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 18, 2023 at 09:32 am

Gute has already decided AR he and the rest of the brass don’t want him back and they’re trying to put the best team they can on the field around Love. They took care of Jenkins, now Jones.

If you add Tillman and Washington to our skill positions, and have good blocking, this could/should be a better offense in 2023.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:18 am

Yes, draft two or three.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:20 am

Bet he signs Tonyan.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:59 am

That would be going Backwards.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 05:27 pm

Tonyan's 53 catches was the most by any Packer TE and 11th in the league last year.

There's room in the TE room for Tonyan at the right price, if you'd like to change the bath water without throwing out the baby.

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:44 pm

Cheap and knows the system. ACL healed. Yep, I can see this.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:19 am

Pacheco was a 7th rounder and started for Andy Reid in the SB. Draft guys with talent, not projects. They didn't worry about him working pass pro since they get the ball out in 2.0-2.8 seconds and move Mahomes in the pocket.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:06 pm

Keeping Jones doesn’t mean we have an excuse for not working in a guy like Goodson as a dual threat piece. In fact I’m not sure we had an excuse last year. I bet Andy Reid would find a way to get those kind of guys involved in some form, even if not a as a primary running back in the conventional sense.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:12 pm

Goodson should have been part of the package along with Taylor. Multiple looks. Yes, Andy Reid would have a role for them to excel.

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mnbadger's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:26 pm

CW, I bet Andy Reid would have handled just about every position, situation, scheme and coaching decision different than mlf.
yep, here we sit.
Go Pack Go!

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:53 pm

A one hour Interview...

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dobber's picture

February 18, 2023 at 06:42 am

...a three hour tour!
...a three hour tour!

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dobber's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:42 pm

So basically all they have to do is get Pat Mahomes and they're all set!

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Coldworld's picture

February 18, 2023 at 08:39 am

Maybe Andy Reid

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 18, 2023 at 11:57 am

That ship, regatta, fleet sailed quite a while ago. THEY give guys gold jackets for those decisions.

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HDbikerguy's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:03 am

THAT is why I say to absolutely trade Rodgers now....eat the roughly $40 million this year while Love is still cheap and then picking up Love's 5th year, it's still way cheaper than having dead cap space either in '24 or '25.....

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:13 am

He should have been a trade piece. Stockholder will not be getting his guy, Robinson.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:24 am

You can't move forward with Jones.
Or Taylor either.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:03 pm

Forget about the run to daylight scenarios. RBs can be had rds 3-6. They do not have the power gap scheme to feature a guy like Robinson. Attack with speed from the WRs, get the ball to a new set of TEs. Use THEM to to set up the run. I do see the correlation with rookie RB production and draft position. Travis Etienne was a one pick. Kenneth Walker (clue: The Doak Walker Award guy) was a two pick by Schneider in 2022. Tyler Allegeier was another guy with around 1,200 yards as a #5 pick. We all saw Pacheco come on strong for KC down the strech for another grand and 5TDs. Like Belichick, I do not believe in paying RBs big jing.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:13 pm

RB isn’t going to be markedly better than Jones this year even with your new favorite. It might in fact be less good. RB is not where the opportunity to get better lies on this team. Letting Jones go might have helped us improve elsewhere via picks and cap, but that’s it.

I have to admit that I find it funny that you are so unhappy that we retained a player who is good and under contract. A contract a contract when it’s Rodgers but not Jones? But then you have your annual draft fetish at RB and at QB you don’t?

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dobber's picture

February 18, 2023 at 06:35 am

"A contract a contract when it’s Rodgers but not Jones?"

Shhh...you're harshing his vibe.

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 03:25 pm

As fans we worry way too much about "Cap Hell". The Eagles had almost 65M in dead cap this year. Right now the Packers have almost no dead cap. They will if they trade Rodgers but that's really not a big deal in relation to their cap situation. They can get around the extra 8.7M.

The void years on Aaron Jones contract will be like swatting a fly, a minor nuisance. If he produces for the next couple years, it's worth it. This is how the todays NFL works.

Getting production out of your contracts is all that matters. Jones' contract is nothing to worry about unless he sucks this year. Don't fear the Ponzi scheme, fear the (in hindsight) bad decisions by the FO.

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Starrbrite's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:00 pm

Marine—absolutely. And I’ve been saying this forever—don’t sweat the cap. It’s manufactured, maneuvered, managed, manipulated, and schemed in a 100 directions.
Ya fans have only only a glimpse of what’s happening behind he curtain—especially concerning the cap.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:23 am

Not often a player takes a pay cut when it’s not obvious he isn’t living up to his contract. Without the details, one can’t be certain, but it certainly looks like Jones gave something up to remain a Packer. If true, one hell of an example for others.

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Heyward's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:04 pm

Without the pay cut, Jones probably would've been released, and I doubt any team would pay him $11 million for next season. That's more than the franchise tag for a running back.

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 07:19 pm

He wouldn't have been released. The Packers can't afford a 19.6M dead cap hit. Especially for a player that actually produced. Jones took the cut to help the team and to show us all he wants to be Packer. We should all appreciate Aaron Jones. I hope he retires a Packer with all the records within his reach.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:52 am

Imagine having the best year of your career and having to take a pay cut of millions of dollars...

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:33 am

I don’t think he had to. He chose to. If so, he may see it as more a question of the best place for him and more pay for longer here in real terms. He’s smart enough to know that most future NFL contract payments are merely numbers on paper unless one gets rostered.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:52 am

Oh, I totally think this was the best he could hope for and for the Packers it was a positive as well. Even if Gutey were to trade him before the trade deadline, his presence in the RB Room with any rookies in OTAs, preseason, and in-season will be invaluable to them, right up until the trade deadline anyway.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:42 pm

Yeah, I think it is a win-win. 2 years, $28M was not happening and $16M in 2023 was not going to happen. 2/$23 ($11M this year, $12M in 2024) is possible, and in GB the team would be looking at $12.35M to release him in 2024. GB could still use a post June designation (but they'd have to carry his $17.7M cap number into the 2024 league year but GB could still gain $12M in cap savings next year, or try a trade).

A new team might have given him 2 years, $24M, perhaps $8M to $10M guaranteed in some fashion, but the new team's dead money hit if it turned out to be a mistake or Jones got hurt would be a lot less for 2024. By taking the pay cut, Jones can figure on getting $8.52M fully guaranteed and $10.6M to $11M ( he might lose some or all of his GA bonus) essentially guaranteed.

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MainePackFan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:58 pm

The original contract screamed restructure. Keep playing well and we'll pay you. I hope Aaron Jones retires a Green Bay Packer. Sure does seem like he wants to.

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murf7777's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:49 pm

What I read is that the Packers gave the ultimatum. Be cut or take a pay cut. Of course, believe 1/2 of what you read:)

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dobber's picture

February 18, 2023 at 06:46 am

Sounds like AJones is pleased with his situation based on his tweets and releases.

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Since'61's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:39 am

It happened to Mickey Mantle going all the way back to 1957. Because in '57 he did not have as good a season as in '56 when he won the Triple Crown the Yankees cut his salary for '58 by $10,000. Not big deal today but back then it was a big pay cut. Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:58 am

Yes, I hate it when that happens.

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Rarescope's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:28 pm

"Imagine having the best year of your career and having to take a pay cut of millions of dollars..."

Team sport, and the team hardly lived up to Jones best year of his career (just food for thought).

Also, going from more money than most of us will earn in our entire lives for one year's worth of work to slightly less more money than most of us will earn in our entire lives for one year's worth of work hardly has me shedding a tear for Jonesy - much as I like him as a player and person.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

February 17, 2023 at 09:54 am

Although this likely removes Bijan Robinson from draft consideration at 15, it may make taking a RB who can also play slot WR an excellent choice. Jahmyr Gibbs, if we traded 15 down, or he miraculously lasted until 45, would be perfect. If the 29 year old Jones suffers an injury, you have his replacement available.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:27 am

Sean Tucker. Kenny McIntosh, Eric Gray, Tyjae Spears...rounds three-five.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:34 am

I very much doubt that he was to start with and definitely not if we pick at 15.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:09 pm

He could be drafted and one of either Jones or Dillon traded during the draft. There are a number of scenarios which could play out, but unlikely to occur in Packertown.

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dobber's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:44 pm

If they trade Jones during the draft, his cap hit more than doubles.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:17 pm

What about the sign and trade scenario, pre-draft. I haven't looked into the accounting.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:41 pm

We need the big guys, particularly on the defensive side. Thompson wasn't perfect, but he was right about getting the big guys first. They are fewer and far between. Jones himself was a 5th round pick. No need to ever go high on a RB.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 18, 2023 at 12:24 pm

He drafted around 20 guys from '05 to 2017(?). Eleven stuck after cut-downs, excluding Perry who transitioned to Edge. He let two future NFL contributors go at cut-down time, Dave Tollefson ( Two SBs with the NYGiants) and Lawrence Guy to the P squad to add a sp teams guy. He was Claimed and had a good career, ( 2 SBs with Belichick). Hit on Raji, Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Lowry. Contributions from depth guys like Johnny Jolly and C.J. Wilson, Jarius Wynn. The rest is not a pretty picture. Can anyone digest Jerel Worthy as a two pick w/out losing their lunch?

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PackerGravy's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:06 am

We need more AJ’s!
Great player
Great guy
A Packer for life and Packer HOF

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wildbill's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:09 am

Love Jones both as a person and a player. That being said I can’t get his two, playoff game, fumbles that cost us dearly out of my head. Probably not fair to him but can’t shake them. Hopefully he will make up for them in the upcoming season.

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Starrbrite's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:04 pm

Same thoughts in my mind wildbill.

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Swisch's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:11 am

Aaron Jones is a keeper.
These cases have to be handled on more than just a formula of comparing stats to salary cap hit, but with a look at the person on and off the field.
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I agree that it's somewhat easy to find good running backs, but not of the caliber of Jones.
Jones is uniquely dynamic, a rare difference-maker.
He's a game-breaker, for one thing, a threat to score on any given play; but he's also a guy who can get the tough yards to move the chains and put the ball in the end zone.
He's also amazing in being equally dangerous as a receiver and a runner.
He just turned 28 this past December, and seems to be going strong in such a way as to stay at or near his previous performances for at least two more seasons.
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Also part of the package of Aaron Jones is his apparent stellar character, which seems to be of the kind to uplift the entire team.
Being around a great producer who is also a great person can't but help to be a boost.
For such guys to want to be Green Bay Packers, and to even take a pay cut along the way, is something to cherish and hold onto if at all reasonable.
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Every player is a risk, but guys like Jones are good risks.
Generally, I don't think it's a good idea to go all in one direction or the other. That's usually too simplistic, like blitzing on every down or not blitzing on every down. So, for example, I don't think the Packers should get too old or too young, keeping every veteran or getting rid of every veteran.
Every case has to be decided individually, plus in the context of the rest of the team.
I'm not for paying extravagant salaries to players, but still generous salaries, so that everyone on the roster is taken care of in good proportion.
I like that the Packers are rebuilding with youth but still remaining relevant for the playoffs with veterans. Also, good veterans help to bring along the youth to play the game the right way for championships.
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I hope this deal with Jones is win-win.
It's a sign that our front office is mostly doing things the right way to build a winning team, with the glaring exception of letting our quarterback dictate terms on and off the field.
We can't keep Jones forever, but we can go out of our way to keep him as long as possible.
It's a good day knowing Aaron Jones remains a Packer.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:55 am

I agree, thanks Swisch. I loved how close #33 was/is to his pops...man that was so cool seeing that respect and admiration for one another. 👍

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Turophile's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:17 am

These are indicators to whether Rodgers is coming back to Green Bay.

Keep Jones, Cobb, Lewis, Crosby.....................and the Packers will be going into 2023 with Rodgers..........................but the more of those players that are gone, the more likely Rodgers goes elsewhere.

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dobber's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:34 am

I think this Jones deal doesn't indicate either way. They'd want to support a developing 10 with a back who can be a focal point for the offense.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:38 am

I just hope we don’t pull this type of deal with the likes of Lowry. Jones is good. But elsewhere we need to get not just cheaper but better. It’s good (subject to details) for Jones who is good and young enough. It would be bad as a general model for older and less standout players.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:55 am

I guarantee you that Lowry is going to get interest in free agency and he'll sign for a lot more than the Packers could have afforded. He's part of the past, not part of 2023.

As TGR and I have pointed out, the actual cost of keeping Lowry as our #4 DL is pretty minimal, especially since we're paying him $3 million to NOT play for us next year. Add another $2 million ????? But that's not even a serious offer, IMO, because he'll attract something on the order of 3 years for $15 million, most of it guaranteed, and the Packers won't come close to matching that.

The issue on the DL is addition, not subtraction. After Clark, we'll have Wyatt and Slaton. If nobody ever got injured, you might almost make it through the season with that. The remaining candidates might be adequate to take a few snaps in a game, but an injury makes them a starter, playing serious snaps, and I'm not seeing the answer currently on the roster. We're going to have to add somebody, and I don't mean some Day 3/UDFA type.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:04 pm

If that is true, I hope it's duh bares who give him that offer...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:53 pm

I think Jarran Reed and Lowry are both guys who can only get one year deals. Reed might get $3.5M and Lowry $2.75M. I suppose a two-year deal is possible, but it would have an easy out after one season.

Yes, GB could have gotten Lowry back for a little more than his dead money hit.

OTC shows GB just $4.66M over the cap. Did anyone notice that OTC lists GB's dead money at $555,655? Where is Lowry's dead money? Where is Amos'? it doesn't include a tender for Nijman. So, it is a phony number.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 04:36 pm

Spotrac has us at $5.7 over , with the same amount of dead money. Fake numbers?

We're going to see about Reed and Lowry. I think Lowry will get more than Reed and I'd take the over on that 2.7 million number.

I don't think Amos is coming back. Perhaps Lowry or Reed is coming back at a discount....I'd be for that, but I know a lot of people wouldn't.

Nijman's tender......According to spotrac, he'll be a FA in a few weeks, with a market value of about $3.3 million. IMO, if you get an insurance policy that is a veteran who has played both tackle spots for $3.3, go for it. You can pretty much guarantee he's going to be playing snaps for us on the line.

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Since'61's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:41 am

Yes Turophile, I immediately thought the same thing. Thanks, Since '61

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Turophile's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:25 pm

On it's own, Jones contract isn't convincing me Rodgers is returning, He was either getting a reworked contract or he was gone - Gute couldn't let a $20m hit for one year stand, not for a RB given the Packers cap situation. It's no more than a hint towards Rodgers returning, at the moment.

But, along with Jones, if Lewis and Cobb and Crosby all come back, so will Rodgers, imo.

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Since'61's picture

February 17, 2023 at 07:29 pm

Agree. I think the Packers need Jones regardless of who plays QB. But it does get me thinking Lewis, Cobb and Crosby may not be far behind. None of them have announced their retirement yet and that's a bit intriguing to me. Thanks, Since '61

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:08 am

I think the only indicator Jones being brought back is belief his impressive production over the last 5 years is likely to continue.. Most valuable player on the team who is also under used.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:37 am

I would have traded him.
My hope is they still get Robinson.

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Since'61's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:41 am

Why would the Packers trade their best offensive player? Since '61

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TarynsEyes's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:55 am

Your best Offensive Player shouldn't be a RB. If it is, then the wall the team will keep hitting looms larger and larger.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:20 pm

Ah, now therein lies a labyrinth of questions.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:11 am

Trade value. Other Needs.

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Oppy's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:42 am

I think too many draftniks treat football roster management like baseball roster management.

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Lphill's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:24 am

why did the Panthers trade Mccaffrey ?

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:52 pm

Move the cash and added draft capital ( rds 2,3,4 in '23 and a # 5 in '24). They had Donta Foreman and Hubbard
on the depth chart. Proactive.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:43 pm

Watson is about to be the best offensive player. Jones is a great player but Watson's talent leaves him with a really high ceiling as a player.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:11 am

I am pleased you are disappointed they did not trade AJ.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:15 am

Remember that when he Fumbles.

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Oppy's picture

February 18, 2023 at 10:36 am

I'll agree with you on this point.

Jones has ball security issues, been on display for 3 or more years, the only reason it isn't talked about is he's been fortunate enough to fumble the ball out of bounds or the ball has been recovered on most of those fumbles.

That being said.. Ahman Green also had ball security issues.

Jones home-run threat every time he touches the ball and his dual-threat talent as a runner and pass catcher outweighs the ball security issue overall, IMO.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 18, 2023 at 12:45 pm

His first carry at the start of 3rd Qtr in the 2020 NFC CH gave Tampa the ball inside the ten and an easy score.
This coming after the King fail giving Miller the TD w/ 7 secs on the clock 2nd Qtr. 14 point differential was too much to overcome for the Pack with Bhak on the IR and the Tampa pass rush teeing off...

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Oppy's picture

February 18, 2023 at 05:34 pm

Remember that one time that one player made a mistake and cost us the game?

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Oppy's picture

February 18, 2023 at 05:35 pm

There's another prominent player on the roster who has a ball security issue that no one talks about.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:22 pm

Lot of stuff can happen between now and draft day. He is still a value chip in the trade scenarios. We don't know Gutedkunst's intentions until the Guru comes to the Light.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 10:46 am

I like this. Although you can get good RBs on Day 3 of the draft....Jones was one....guys who have produced like Jones are hard to replace. He's generally been available and he's been our most productive offensive player (1500 yards from scrimmage, 7 TDs last year but usually more). He can run and catch and block and he's smart and he especially has a nose for the endzone. He has 60 career TDs, and if he got 20 more he'd be around #60 or so on the all-time TD list. 10 more moves him into the all-time Top 30.

Just saying...if he has a good year this year, and maybe gets some more touches near the endzone, we could be talking about one of the most prolific TD guys in NFL history. That's something.

I think you have to give Kudos to the Packer Management Team .....you know, the bumbling, incompetent fools we rant about all the time....for keeping this guy AND getting cap relief simultaneously.

I understand the point about kicking it down the road, but I agree with Packer Management that the cap is going to increase in coming years. He's our #1 offensive skill position player, he's a good guy, he stays healthy, and it's good to have him on the team.

That said, he had 5 fumbles last year, and at least one of them played a significant part in a loss. That's twice as many fumbles as any previous season, and that's concerning. I've noticed he's more likely to fumble on plays where he's a receiver, running after the catch, than when he takes a handoff into the line. I can't explain why.

Projected Opening Day Starting Offense: Love, Jones, Watson, Tonyan, Doubs, Lewis. Bakhtiari-Runyan-Jenkins-Myers-Nijman. Key reserves: Dillon, Toure, Tom, and some premium draft picks at TE, WR, and OL.
In my simulations I regularly get one of the Top 4 TEs in the draft, and Cedric Tillman at WR, along with a starting caliber tackle, plus a Safety and Edge......all in Top 100. After a typical trade down from #15 to #34, 66, 96.....courtesy of AZ...we could have 5 picks between #34 and #96.

A typical simulation would have us getting the safety, Johnson, at #34, then a TE at #45 (it doesn't really matter which of Kincaid/Musgrave/Washington I get.) At #66, I go for Tillman, even if I have to use some of my Day 3 picks to move up and get him. I think he's the most complementary receiver to what we currently have, he's one of the bigger bodied guys (which I prefer), and he's a guy I'm definitely targeting.

Now I have my starting safety, a rotational TE and WR, and I still have picks at #78 and #96. I'm going to go for a guy to help take up the slack until Gary gets back, and I'm targeting the guy from Northwestern, AA (it's a long Nigerian name that I can never remember). He's smart and a physical freak, and by the time Gary got back we'd have a pretty good three man group. Until then, we need a guy to help Enagbare and Smith take up the slack.

And then at #96, I usually take the best tackle on the board, which is frequently Blake Freelund, from BYU.

So....
Antonio Johnson at Safety
Dalton Kincaid at TE
Cedric Tillman at WR
AA at Edge/DE
Blake Freelund at OT.

Now, if we had extra picks from trading some player away, we might do things differently,

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croatpackfan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:05 pm

"I understand the point about kicking it down the road, but I agree with Packer Management that the cap is going to increase in coming years."

The only problem you forget with this statement is that Salary Cap increase means that all the salaries for players will increase. Players will demand more money for every contract. So increase in Salary Cap will not make much easier dead money hit in the following seasons, because every new contract will be more expensive than the one you signed 2-3 years ago. Also, there is danger that Salary Cap can be under negative influence in near future for many reasons, even by repeating some kind of dangerous infectious disease that can occur. That is realistic danger, as you all have to know that with melting ice core and permafrost (frozen soil) many, for humanity unknown microorganisms will be released and easily produce dangerous pandemic.

I would be cautious to not count to much on huge SC increase...

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:47 pm

They're' not kicking huge numbers down the road with Jones, as they relate to the salary cap.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 05:16 pm

I was not talking about Aaron Jones. I was talking of many others. I'm talking of 7 to 8 restructures and with ACR contract still there.

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Coldworld's picture

February 18, 2023 at 08:27 am

Yes. It’s ok for one, but we can’t afford to be piling on 3 years of dead cap after they leave the team for a bunch of players. Jones is good enough to make it reasonable in isolation. No one else is close. Jones is also valuable whoever plays QB. If Rodgers returns we are almost certainly going to have to go through this soul searching every year. Jones’ presence is on merit irrespective of what Rodgers does.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 05:16 pm

Dobledecker.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:32 pm

Everybody's salary increases, but at any given time, you're only paying about a dozen guys and the rest are all on rookie deals or vet minimums. The Packers have about a dozen guys making $7 million or more, and then another bunch making between $2 and $4million, and pretty much everybody else is rookie deal, pro-rated signing bonus,etc at about about the league minimum. Over half our roster.

Mathwise, if the cap increases, the percentage of dead money declines, unless add more. There's no way to sugarcoat this...for 2023, we have tight cap situation. It could/should be better by this time next year, but for now, we have our work cut out trying to put a competitive team on the field. Yes, we could just give up and get rid of everyone and play replacement minimum wage guys and go 1-16 and get a high draft pick. I'd prefer to play the season, and it's going to mean getting under the cap. If we can do that without releasing good players,I'm all for it.

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Coldworld's picture

February 18, 2023 at 08:34 am

The last time the salary cap jumped, once a rise was known to be inevitable, contract renegotiations for stars and FA prices skyrocketed very quickly. This was well under way even before the final jump was known. Players and agents aren’t stupid and some owners want shiny new toys. The pace of the readjustment last time surprised both league and analysts pretty much universally.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:08 am

So....
Antonio Johnson at Safety
Dalton Kincaid at TE
Cedric Tillman at WR
AA at Edge/DE
Blake Freelund at OT.
Thats PFFs view, It will change after the combine.
I don't believe any TE is worth a #1, unless he can do a 4.5.
I'll take a good Wr over TE any day.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:24 pm

I would take a Kelce any day. There are a few others in the league whom I’d take over nearly any WR. Certainly some of the ones you have been pushing recently.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:32 pm

TEs have a bigger impact in the running game than WRs, and half of your plays are runs.

I like TEs that stay healthy, get their man blocked, and catch a ball or two a game. Like Lewis. Or Ed West. Or Bubba. IF on top of that, you have a pass catching threat, like Coffman, then that's a bonus.

So I like Kincaid, but I also like Washington and Musgrave and a few others.

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golfpacker1's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:40 pm

Xavier HutchinsonWR-Iowa State, Same size as Tillman, faster, way more productive with over 3000 receiving yards in 3 years and never drops the ball. He also can block. A better choice and can be had late 2nd round or early 3rd. Also maybe Bergerson-Syracuse, Carter-Pittsburgh or Morris-Oklahoma better choices at OT. The first 2 know how to play in cold weather and Morris is just better. All 3 weigh 25 lbs more right now.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 18, 2023 at 01:10 pm

They have similar 40 times with Hutchinson around 4.51-4.54 and Tillman at 4.55-4.56. I push Tillman as the #2 WR. possession guy. He goes up and snags the Contested ball. The big differential is Tillman's hand size at 9-7/8" vs Xavier's 9"-0. Tillman has 34-1/2 ' arm length vs 31"0. He has the 80" wingspan for the catch radius necessary for NFL WRs. Hutchinson was Purdy's favorite target in '21. Tillman was ALL SEC his junior year and was injured with the high ankle sprain most of '22. Hyatt took his snaps and moved into the NFL draft with his 4.3 time. Neither guy has the body type of Tillman. He carries 215 lbs on his bones, not 200 or 185lbs.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:19 am

Over the last 15 years, AJ is one of the top 3 NFL RBs in Estimated Points Added per Attempt and Rushing Yards over Expected.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/17/this-one-chart-helps-explain...

He's the only Packer RB that made the ranking.

And he's only 28.

He will be so much more valuable to Love than Rodgers, in my view.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:35 am

Aaron Jones is the only player I see as must to restructure his contract to keep him as Packers. There may be some better RBs, but I'm not sure any of them will fit Packers locker room like Aaron Jones.

All others should be traded or restructured and traded. As I also like David Bakhtiary, I'm not sure how good he will be in the future considering his problems with his knee. All others are replaceable.

Packers Diva should be released or traded, if he will not retire. He has to get Packers organization and fans respect for his early and later performances as Packers, but - it is time to make that move. As soon as ACR decide to retire, I would organize his Packers HOF ceremony and retire his number to remeber as one of the Packers greatest players.

I'm all to keep good persons and players with experience to help young core to overcome drastic change they will face entering NFL.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 17, 2023 at 11:55 am

Gutey just can't help himself and goes defense with his first 3 picks (to destroy sh's dreams)...

07 Brian Bresee DL / Clemson - (Trade with Raiders)

15 Brian Branch S | Alabama

38 Andre Carter II EDGE | Army (Trade with Raiders)

45 Darnell Washington TE | Georgia

78 Cedric Tillman WR / Tennessee

116 Dontayvion Wicks WR | Virginia

151 Kendre Miller RB | TCU

171 Josh Whyle TE | Cincinnati

234 Warren McClendon OT | Georgia

237 Nick Saldiveri OT | Old Dominion

244 Nesta Jade Silvera DL | Arizona State

256 Ochaun Mathis EDGE | Nebraska

259 Max Duggan QB | TCU

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:29 pm

I really don’t want to go S at 15, but if we got Branch I’d see it as perhaps the biggest positional upgrade over what we have that we could pull off. I’d have to be happy despite myself. The next biggest upgrade might be at DL, so I really couldn’t fault your day one. I’d love Washington. I think that could be early with his injury record though. I’m not as high in Tillman as many here are and posted so earlier. Let’s see what he does at the combine. He’s one that will be critical for.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:07 pm

Tbh, I like Wicks more than Tillman. In fact, I like Andrei Iosivas more than Tillman...

I know I like Darnell Washington in the 2nd round much more than Mayor in the 1st!

Going Alabama S again makes me very cautious, but I think Branch is much better than Ha Ha ever was, especially as a Blitzer...

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 02:41 pm

You have a lot of my favorites there, BDU.

We could really use a starter at Safety, because Amos is leaving and Savage is in his contract year. Behind them is basically....Ford? I think? Carpenter is listed as a LB on the roster. We could move Douglas but that's a bandage, not a plan for 17 games, and of all the Safeties in this draft, he's looking like the best.

I also like the Tillman/Washington combo.

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stockholder's picture

February 17, 2023 at 03:49 pm

Terrible- Breeze is dropping like a Lead ballon.
Branch is too light. I'd take a OL before Branch.

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egbertsouse's picture

February 17, 2023 at 12:57 pm

Putin’ the band back together. They’re on a mission from God.

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Coldworld's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:11 pm

They were from CHICAGO.

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Packer_Fan's picture

February 17, 2023 at 01:33 pm

Generally, I think that too many people put too much attention on celebrities and football players.

But Aaron Jones is the real deal and should be looked up to. A great example of demonstrating money is not everything.

Glad to have him back on board!

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MooPack's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:05 pm

Glad they resigned Jones. Love his character and production. Restructure had to be done. However, I never rule out a possibility of a draft day trade. Very unlikely, but can't be dismissed out of hand. In light of...

Other never ending news...
quite a few websites have reported on McGinn's recent opinion.

**The Green Bay Packers, McGinn has learned, have all but moved on from the longtime starter. They’re more confident than ever to start Jordan Love, too.

**“They are done with Rodgers,” long-time Packers beat writer Bob McGinn said, via ProFootballTalk. “He’s not coming back. I mean, they’re disgusted with him, and they’re done with him. And they’re moving on.”

**McGinn's report derived from "his own instincts, his knowledge of the league" and, in McGinn's words, "discussions with someone who [has] first-hand knowledge" of the team. McGinn also said he's "totally convinced" Rodgers and the Packers are done and that Green Bay is ready to move forward with Jordan Love as the team's QB1.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:45 pm

Whoa!!! Better put a link. That's actual news. If it's true.

I've followed McGinn for decades and if there's a person who is more connected with what's going on at 1265, I'm not aware of who that could possibly be. I've known him to be wrong, but never to make things up out of thin air, and if he's saying the team is done, they're done.

Aaron Rodgers has worn out his welcome. It wasn't the manbun, or the Ayahuasca, or the mandates, or the eye rolling, it was all of that stuff plus the inability to make the difference on the field like he used to.

IMO, Ayahuasca Aaron was given multiple opportunities to get to the Super Bowl over the last decade and couldn't get it done, and now it's time to try with somebody else driving the car.

A very, very good QB. Smart, accurate, mobile, and he protected the ball better than any QB, ever. Thanks for the memories, but I'm more than ready for Love under center this fall.

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MooPack's picture

February 17, 2023 at 07:05 pm

Just do a search for Packers news. It’s all over.

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jhtobias's picture

February 17, 2023 at 06:39 pm

It is good to see a guy like jones stay around he is a great football player but an even better human being .

The cap for this team this yr really won't matter people need to get over this . Whether Rodgers gets traded or retires it is a 40 million dollar hit either way . We are not cutting Aaron 99 million dollar cap hit.

Truth is Aaron has been legendary for Green Bay but the truth is in the last three years he has been eliminated by an old Tom Brady , Jimmy G and Jared Goff at home . It is time to break the cord . Even if Rodgers wants to come back and there is nothing Green bay can do except let him know you will be backing up Jordan . No way his ego allows this only card the packers have .

Also this is not a Super Bowl Contending team Talented absolutely, coaching is pathetic bottom of the barrel offense and defense and lafluer while I believe is a great Head Coach leader he has absolutely no idea how to hire the help. Berry and Stenovich What lol.

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MooPack's picture

February 17, 2023 at 08:38 pm

Bob McGinn - https://www.golongtd.com/p/mcginn-why-the-packers-will-move

“As of right now, I’m convinced — based on my own instincts and knowing the NFL and knowing what happens after all these defeats and discussions with someone who has firsthand knowledge of this organization, of the packers’ internal debates — that they are done with Rodgers. That’s the way it is right now, that he’s not coming back. They’re disgusted with him and they’re done with him and they’re moving on. This is going to involve money and a trade partner and all kinds of things. But I’m totally convinced he is not going to be their starting quarterback this year…

…it’s love’s turn. The organization’s going that way. And that’s the way it is. This is everybody, I’m told. This is Murphy. This is LaFleur. This is Gutekunst. This is the whole shooting match. They’ve turned the page. They don’t see Rodgers as a guy who’s really working hard anymore. They see a guy who — when he reported this year — his body wasn’t so-called ‘tight’ and strong as it was. They see a guy who blew off the offseason last year. … They’re done. ”

Many saw that in the offseason, me included. Didn't show up outside of the required pre-season to help the young receivers get some much needed help with timing, signals, relationship building, etc., etc. That's what champions do. That's what a person does to get a leg up on competition. Overtime. Too bad this is a year too late. The signs were surely there. Who was the ultimate idiot that over ruled those obvious signs?

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croatpackfan's picture

February 18, 2023 at 02:39 am

"Who was the ultimate idiot that over ruled those obvious signs?"

The one who said "We are not idiots!"

I'm not sure only in one thing. Did that person said that sentence to convince himself, or to try to convince us.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 18, 2023 at 06:53 am

I'm sure someone in the organization leaked this to McGinn... SMH

I won't believe it until he's traded and we've got the NFL's seal of approval...

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Qoojo's picture

February 18, 2023 at 11:17 am

I suspect MLF is tired of implementing more of MM's offense to keep AR happy and "engaged", and tired of watching AR ignore plays to try and be hero.

If AR is traded, I am real curious how it will work out given the deference WRs must give to him by "earning his trust". I just don't see why a team would want AR after he showed this year how he works with all new WRs. Raiders are about the only team that makes sense, and that's because of Adams. But McDaniels has a pretty big ego too, so i do not see that working out.

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Oppy's picture

February 19, 2023 at 07:37 pm

I will continue to remind people that for 31 of the 32 NFL teams, the bottom line is revenue and profit margin.

There's a number of teams that would see significant, immediate increases in both revenue and profit with the addition of Aaron Rodgers to their roster.

That is a powerful motivator in and of itself. Add in that Rodgers is an experienced QB that still throws well, and he can be an attractive option for a team looking to upgrade at the QB position and sell a bunch of jerseys, tickets, and hot dogs.

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MarkLee22's picture

February 18, 2023 at 10:09 am

I like this deal. Nice to have stars that will restructure their deals for the benefit of the team. Just need a few others on the team to follow suit and free up cap space.

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